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Anger Toward Mayor Misdirected, Resident Says

True problem is with JCP&L, Kathlyn Carter writes.

 

Dear Editor,

I have received many personal and mean-spirited attacks for defending Mayor Short. Some attackers assume that the Mayor’s supporters are family members or friends. I am neither. Some assume that we must have gotten our power back quicker. My power came back Sunday, 11/11/2012 at approx. 7:00 p.m. I don’t agree with Mayor Short on everything (uh Mayor, whatever happened to paving my street?). But not much can be accomplished if disagreeing about one issue = disagreeing about everything.

I understand the frustration experienced by many not knowing where and how to get information about what was going on. I remember the feeling very well from last year. With no home telephone lines, no web access, no television, no way to re-charge cell phones and sometimes no cell reception, the only connection to the outside world was through battery operated or car radio. Compared to last year, if you knew who to call and where to go to get information, the communication has significantly improved. The mayors and residents were in constant contact with local radio station WRNJ, who generously put aside regular programming to focus solely on the aftermath of Sandy. The continuous coverage of all that was happening locally was invaluable. But obviously not all of the residents knew where to get information and a better job needs to be done to make them aware of what is available.

Other personal attacks against me suggested that “if I know so much about Long Valley, then why don’t I become mayor”? I do not claim to know a lot about Long Valley politics, but I do know a heck of a lot about what our Mayor and committee have done and are doing about the JCP&L situation.  In this particular issue, I am very involved. First Energy of Ohio, the parent company of JCP&L, has proven over and over again that they are unable to service Chester, Mount Olive, and Washington Township. I want First Energy out of here! I had spoken several times to Mayor Short over the past 2 weeks and that is why I am aware of all that he has been doing. By the time he left for vacation, everything was in place to get us up and running. There is nothing else that he could have or needed to do at this time. However, if he is willing to continue to be our Mayor, he has a long battle ahead of him and anyone who is willing to help with the cause is welcome to join in. I had made several calls to JCP&L over the past 2 weeks and believe that I have obtained information that could be helpful to our cause. I assured Mayor Short that I would provide him with the information in writing.

By the way, being Mayor of Washington Twshp. was a paid position. It was Mayor Short’s decision not to accept a salary. I don’t understand why that set off such a spark. Perhaps the anger and frustration over what we went through over these past 2 weeks is being misdirected.

I hope that we will soon be back to normalcy; although we know that we cannot rest assured until something is done about JCP&L. There are many wonderful, caring, generous people in Long Valley. We still have an all volunteer Rescue Squad and an all volunteer Fire Department. For those of us who love living in a neighborhood where kindness and common decency prevail, let us hope that we will never lose that.

Sincerely,

Kathlyn Carter

Washington Township

Related Topics: Hurricane, Hurricane Sandy, JCP&L, Ken Short, Letter to the Editor, and Sandy

Phil McCracken

10:20 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

People are very brave when they are provided with a forum to speak anonymously. All of the nonsense on this site would be ended if people were required to join with their own names.

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Thomas Lotito

8:01 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

That's because Jason is a hardcore left wing journalist he doesn't properly moderate the comments on this forum.Everyday is beat up on Christians and conservatives day. He's lost credibility, as a matter of fact it wouldn't surprise me if the Patch winds up in court for harassment. It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the Patch editors were making some of these remarks. Afterall patch is owned by AOL-Hufington Post.

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Denobin

8:33 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thomas: "Everyday is beat up on Christians and conservatives day." Really? So you obviously are blind to the derision that is reserved for those who oppose your viewpoint, or you just think it's fair because you are right and they are wrong. Either way, even a cursory look at past forum postings show that the oppsoite is at least as true. I won't argue that name calling and bullying are less than useless and counter-productive, but don't try to pretend that it doesn't come from both sides.

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Denobin

9:15 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

@Phil: So says the jokester with the ironic name. Follow your own advice.

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FourScore

9:17 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

"Everyday is beat up on Christians and conservatives day."

Tom, please explain to me how anyone would know the religious affiliations of our mayor and town council members, let alone the other posters on these threads.

nestlingwd

10:30 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Sorry, everything was not in place by the time he left for vacation. A majority of the town was still without power, Old Famers Road School did not have electricity, and most of the roads were closed or impassable. You are entitled to your opinion, but many people here were suffering without electricity, heat and in some cases running water. He should not have left the town while so many people were down and out, plain and simple. It shows a lack of character and judgment. The thought of him sunning himself in an etoxic locael while people were sitting in the dark is unfathomable In addition,it made the 10 o'clock news last night on channel 9 on WWOR. For those of you who did not see it here is the link

http://www.my9tv.com/video?clipId=7956223&topVideoCatNo=240181&autoStart=true

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Jon

10:49 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

nestlingwd, I think the disconnect (no pun intended) is that you apparently believe that the mayor would have been able to do more from here than he could from Aruba, while Kathlyn (and I happen to agree with her) does not believe so. In fact, I would assert that since the mayor was in a place where he HAD uninterrupted access to a telephone and internet, I would argue that he was probably in an even BETTER position to facilitate things than he could have if he had stayed in his powerless home. You don't seem to understand that JCP&L is an Ohio-based public company, not an arm or department of Washington Township, and not beholden to us in any way whatsoever, except that they would like to sell us their electricity. There is absolutely nothing a mayor or anybody else could do to speed their progress other than continuing to call and complain and demand restoration, and I saw plenty of evidence that the mayor was doing all he could in that category. It seems like you and many others expected him to personally deliver water, heat, and generators to all of the affected houses. That is unrealistic, flat out ridiculous, and simply not his job (as I understand it anyway, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

I applaud Kathlyn for a nice letter, and I am ashamed for all of the townspeople who are whining like babies and hurling unjustified insults at the mayor.

BTW, I have seen all kinds of figurative language saying what he should or shouldn't have done, but no hard specifics.

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Jon

11:07 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

...Furthermore, if I were the mayor, and I had received all of this flak from my constituents despite doing what I knew in my heart to be my very best, even foregoing the enjoyment of the better part of a vacation in order to work tirelessly on issues for my townspeople, then my response to you all could be summed up in just two words: "I QUIT". I'd say, "If you can't appreciate me, then you can go ahead and find someone else." At least, that's the polite version.

I'm certainly not encouraging the mayor to quit. Alas, he was just re-elected. But I am saying that if he quit, I would certainly understand, and wouldn't fault him for it one bit, since I know that's what I would do in the face of all this irrational criticism.

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12345678

11:29 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Hmm, a few mayors using public generators and one who went on vacation. It shouldn't have even been included in the same news blurb.
I personally don't think it made any difference were the mayor was while JCPL was working to restore power. It was all over the news that some residents would be without power for two weeks so I was pleasantly surprised when our power was restored just under two weeks.

Joseph Keyes

11:02 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

After our power was restored, I received a visit from Committeeman James Lia Braaten. It was welcome and reassuring. No slight to Mayor Short, but it's good to know that someone was paying attention enough to make that gesture.

nestlingnwd

11:07 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Jon, we all know that JCP&L did a horrendous job. I know that it is based in Ohio, so no need for the condescending comment. That is not the point! Going on vacation during the largest storm to ever hit NJ, while the residents were still in the dark is a terrible idea, and you cannot defend it. Why not stay and volunteer at the firehouse, or the church, or anywhere for that matter? The fact that you think he was actually communicating with JCP&L from Aruba is laughable. And all of the "insults" are criticisms, and the last time I checked that was allowed. I'm equally "ashamed" that you would stand by the mayor and justifiy his actions...disgraceful!

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Jon

11:18 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I hereby agree to disagree with you, and I hope you will do the same.

FourScore

11:25 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

"I do not claim to know a lot about Long Valley politics, but I do know a heck of a lot about what our Mayor and committee have done and are doing about the JCP&L situation."

Well that puts you one up on most of us.

The biggest problem, the same as last year, is dissemination of information by the mayor and town council to the residents. We received daily Honeywell alerts about school closings, but nothing about the situation in the town... ie; street closings, shelters open, updates from JCP&L, etc. They may have been communicated online, but without internet, that doesn't help much.

These critiques of the mayor are not personal attacks, but feedback as to how he can do a better job next time (and I think we're all confident that there will be a next time). The mayor claims that he has stayed away from the Patch because he doesn't want to get involved in the personal attacks. No one is asking him to engage in the name calling, but by reading these threads, he may obtain some valuable feedback and helpful suggestions from the people he represents.

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Jon

11:47 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I definitely agree that it was frustrating not knowing what roads were closed at any given point in time. Of course, by trying to use those roads, you would find out. And since most businesses were closed anyway, there probably wasn't much of a need to drive anywhere for the bulk of the time. But nonetheless, it's a valid point, especially as time went on. So.... how can that be fixed? What's needed is an emergency communications command center that is up 24/7 on generator power, with radios, and a map of the town with all the hot spots marked on it with pencil / thumbtacks / whatever, as well as a bunch of people out in the field driving around finding the outages and reporting them to the command center.
That gives us one person in town who knows where all the outages are. How does s/he communicate that back out to the townspeople who are without power/phones/internet? I see three options:
1) A call-in number at the command center that people can call to get specific route info.
2) WRNJ
3) A town owned low power radio station that is activated during emergencies
We actually did have #1 in place (I used it, and it worked.)
We also had #2 in place, but we didn't feed WRNJ as much road closure data as we perhaps could have. Then again, would they have been willing to recite our full list of road closures? I'm not sure.
We could purchase some equipment to do #3 if we think it's worth it. That's a budget item the committee can decide on at a future meeting.

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Jon

11:51 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Of course, all of the above also requires something else: PEOPLE. Not just any people, but TRAINED people. The command center net control operator has to be very highly skilled, and the field spotters should be pretty well trained also. So who pays for all this, or is it volunteers?

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Stacie Bohr

6:50 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Agreed!! I receive Honeywell alerts regarding Market Day pick ups for God's sake. As if that's necessary.

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Kevin Nedd

7:04 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Why is there a need for "a bunch of people out in the field driving around finding the outages and reporting them to the command center?" Why not have the police mobilize and do this? Unlike the Mayor, they are paid to do their jobs.

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Jon

8:23 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Having the police report the downed trees and wires and road closures is actually a good idea, and perhaps an appropriate use of the police. I don't know enough about the police in town to know if there are enough of them for something like that in an incident of this magnitude, so I'll leave that to those who know.

But even as a newbie in town, I have read the news enough to know that the police don't have a command center in this town with a dedicated control operator who would be receiving, recording, and disseminating all of that data. Therein lies the problem. The data needs to be gathered, then reported, collected, organized, and turned into something usable.

I don't believe that it would be realistic to have an automated system or a manned system periodically phone every single resident of the town and inform them of every single outage and closure. That's not usable. That quantity and type of data needs to be "pulled" by those who need it, not "pushed". The only push type mechanism that could work in a widespread outage is radio. I think it would be too much data for WRNJ - it would use up a huge chunk of their airtime, and we are not the only town on the map. It would require our own little radio station if you wanted to push the data out. Having a call-in number to learn about the specific outages you care about is a lot more manageable. As I said earlier, we had that. I was able to find out how to get from A to B by calling 876-4633. It worked great.

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Kevin Nedd

8:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

There are at least 30 police officers employed by the township. When a state of emergency has been declared, they should all be mobilized for missions such as this. As to where they report back, this could be a pre-designated township employee who can collect the data and make it available to the appropriate authorities. This is called disaster planning and should already be part of a plan on file. The lack of a plan (if this is indeed the case) is again a reflection on Mayor Short's leadership skills.

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Jon

9:13 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Amazing, you said something that I agree with. You know the town better than I, so is there a person or job title who you would nominate to collect and disseminate the information? And would it need to be three people, for three 8-hour shifts per day? Or two people for two 10 or 12 hours shifts per day, or what? Is there a physical space available where the person could perform this work? What tools or equipment would the person need? Do we already have them, or would they need to be procured? Would periodic emergency drills need to be conducted? If so, how often? Would the town budget support all this? (You did say "employee", not "volunteer".)

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Kevin Nedd

10:24 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Everything you mentioned would fall within the scope of a township disaster plan. All of the personnel, space, and tools required are already employed/owned by the township. It’s like a warship that goes to general quarters and even the cooks might find themselves manning a machine gun.

Woody

11:48 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I think Mayor Short should have personally cut down more trees and connected as many power lines as possible before going on his planned vacation. The nerve of this guy for not stopping Hurricane Sandy. Hey, I have an idea............let's build a giant fan in the middle of town(next to the cell tower) so we can push the next storm away from Happy Valley.

MaryLynn Schiavi

12:11 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

It's not fair to cast blame on Mayor Short. This was an act of nature. We now need to be prepared for the new normal. We live in what many believe to be the frontier-region of NJ. We all love the country, and to some extent those of us who have moved to this area have a pioneer spirit. Now we need to take responsibility and prepare our homes for the wave of big storms that are predicted. We really need to stop the blame game. This is mother nature at work and she's bigger and more powerful than all of us.

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Jon

12:23 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

MaryLynn, I'll respond to each of your sentences individually: Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct.

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FourScore

1:07 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

These type of problems occurred all over norther NJ, so the "frontier-region" argument doesn't hold water. However, you are correct that this is the new normal, which is why we need to determine how to do a better job dealing with it.

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tatkins

1:17 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

No one is blaming Mr. Short for the storm. The residents are angry that an elected official left town for vacation during the time when the residents were looking for leadership. In that aspect he failed big time.

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Jon

1:35 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

tatkins (and others), I am bloody sick of hearing you babies crying "We need leadership". Please list some SPECIFIC VERIFIABLE TASKS, ACTIONS, or DUTIES that you believe the mayor failed to perform, and cite your evidence. Better still, tell us exactly how YOU would have gone about performing those tasks, actions or duties if you had been mayor during this event. So far, the only concrete request I have heard was from one person who said the mayor should have volunteered to help at a firehouse or church. I think that on top of already volunteering to be mayor for a year, that's really asking a lot. But some people have a heart of gold, and have no family or other commitments, and they can just volunteer their life away. That's great, and very commendable, but definitely what I would call "exceeding expectations", i.e. "above and beyond the call of duty".

A REAL LEADER would have seen to it that there was shelter and water available for the residents. Oh wait, THERE WAS!

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Jon

3:03 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Kevin, if you want to see total BS, just look in the mirror. I have no issue with the mayor taking his vacation (obviously). You take issue with the mayor taking his vacation (obviously). That's where this conversation ends. Next time, run for mayor. I'm sure your mother will vote for you.

And by the way, if you are equating a mayor "abandoning" several hundred people who are without power (when there is nothing he could do about it anyway) to the captain of a ship abandoning it and letting people die, you picked a grossly mismatched analog. Try again. Why don't you do us a huge favor and just spend your time on the beach or on the Honolulu patch instead of trying to rule the town from half way across the globe. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

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Kevin Nedd

4:19 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Jon,

When you start paying the property taxes on 65 Kim Lane, I'll shut up. Until then, I'll hold the mayor accountable when I feel he isn't doing the job he was elected for. Speaking of elections, the last time I ran for public office I received over 3,500 votes, how many did you get?

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Thomas Lotito

8:04 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Hookerman, you prepare for storm outages by being self reliant.

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Thomas Lotito

8:08 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Kevin, you're complaining about your property taxes again. I would love to see your reaction when you realize your Obama tax increase liability for 2013. lol

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Kevin Nedd

8:19 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Tom,

Your reading skill is about as good as your skill in predicting winning Presidential candidates, I'm not complaining about my taxes. I'm stating the basis as to why I have the right to an opinion.

As for my income tax liability in 2013, I have no issues with how it turns out. Unlike you, I am not a net drag on my township, county, state, and nation.

Domino

12:37 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Is it true that the Vice-Mayor was with him? Seems like his letter covered that up; he just mentioned a "dear friend"

PatienceWorth

12:51 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Did JCPL do a bad job? Who knows, it was a totally unprecedented disaster. Maybe they get an A+. Maybe they get a D-. Nobody on this thread knows. Nobody.

What JCPL does get is an F in communications, for giving time estimates to municipalities and residents that turned out to be inaccurate. And those municipal leaders got hung out to dry.

Locally, what can the municipality do? Open shelters, check. Cajol, beg, and scream at the utility? Check. Get generators out to the list of the most vulnerable infirm and elderly? Check. Have DPW clear the roads to the extent possible where JCPL wires weren't involved? Check. Get emergency services like police, fire and first aid on-line? Check. And a bunch of other checks, no doubt.

If any of you want to drop your lives for three weeks for 16 hours a day to explain to angry resident after resident after resident that this wasn't their street that got hit, it was the infrastructure of NJ, then you should run against the incumbents for Township Committee, which NOT A SINGLE PERSON was interested in doing this year -- not a Democrat in the two seats for the primary, not a Democrat in the general election, not a Republican challenger in the primary. Well at least you get a salary. Whoops, no you don't anymore, not a dime. Well, at least you get benefits. Whoops, you don't anymore. The TC voted themselves out of that years back. They are now TOTAL VOLUNTEERS.

To say it is a thankless job is a ridiculous understatement.

Kevin Nedd

2:11 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Nothing more than another CYA letter for Mayor Short.

1. As the leader of our township, Mayor Short had a moral (leadership) responsibility to remain on site until the vast majority of residents had power. He demonstrated poor judgment in choosing to go on vacation while a MAJORITY of his residents were freezing in the dark. He should suffer the consequences of his decision the next time his name appears on the ballot whether it be in 3 years or in a recall election which can only take place after he has served one year of his new term.

2. It was NOT Mayor Short’s decision not to accept a salary. The gradual elimination of the Committeeman stipend occurred over several years via a series of unanimous votes by the full Township Committee.

3. Prior to voting to eliminate his salary, Mayor Short accepted free taxpayer provided health benefits at a cost of over $50,000. He would still be accepting this benefit had there not been a change in the township's provider (a move I championed) which required an opt-in vote of the committee to continue receiving taxpayer provided benefits. This of course proved to be too politically toxic for the committee at a time when budgets were being cut.

3. The question of whether or not the township's Vice Mayor Bill Roehrich accompanied Mayor Short to Aruba, remains unanswered. We look forward to the truth.

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In_the_dark

2:58 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Vice Mayor Roehrich is with Mayor Short in Aruba according to:
http://bonosrama.newsvine.com/_news/2012/11/12/15113590-mayor-vacations-while-town-still-suffers-from-sandys-effects-he-reminds-critics-that-he-is-not-paid-anything

This issue was not addressed by the mayor in his letter nor by the Vice-Mayor. Yet another demonstration of poor character and poor judgement if in fact true

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IamNobody

4:49 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Yeah Ken Short should have canceled his vacation and eaten the thousands of dollars he spent and gotten his ladder, black tape, wire cutters, and a chain saw out and fix all our power lines and down trees himself!!! Because after all, he's superman!! Oh wait a minute, he's just the Mayor, a person like you or me.

Better communications is about the only substantial thing anyone can complain about in my humble opinion. JCP&Ls communication about their inability to provide proper service to this area. And given VZW wasn't passing data for a week after the storm, and AT&T was down for a period, smartphones didn't even help!

How about blasting Verizon Wireless for their horrid service for a week after the storm? Or maybe those of you who keep blocking VZW from installing a new tower behind the police station? Since you're getting on your soap box and turning this into a political agenda for yourself why don't you tell us something substantial that you would have done that would have helped? If you can answer with substance and not negative rubbish then maybe you'll win my vote next election!

Oh, by the way, you have two points numbered - 3...

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Kevin Nedd

5:46 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Thanks...final point shoud be # 4.

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Kevin Nedd

6:03 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

5) How about holding a meeting with every current and former elected offical (TC, BOE, etc.) in the township to gather ideas on what could be done and enlisting their assistance? Just think of the good will this would have produced in getting the word out and meeting the needs of the town in a time of crisis.

Leta

2:22 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

There is a saying "you get what you pay for"! If he would have incurred money out of his pocket or a loss, for the trip, it would be like he was paying to be Mayor. Just saying. I don't agree with his choice, at all, but something to consider for the future.

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Kevin Nedd

2:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

In principle, I agree with your thoughts. I believe the position of Committeeman should be paid. We pay freeholders, state assemblymen and senators, congressman and all other elected officials up the food chain. Why not committeeman? Perhaps then Mayor Short would have felt more of an obligation to remain on site, even if it was for the wrong reason.

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Kevin Nedd

7:13 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Mayor Short = retired insurance agent = no excuse!

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Kathlyn Carter

10:11 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Kevin Nedd, I am finding it very difficult to follow your thoughts. At one point you said that it was you who championed the cause to eliminate salary and benefits for the position of Mayor. Now you are saying that the Mayor and committeemen should be paid. Have you changed your stance on that issue? Please clarify.

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Kevin Nedd

10:31 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Based on a campaign pledge, I championed the elimination of benefits for committeeman. I took no such position with respect to salary. I hope this clears things up for you.

Leta

2:25 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

It is just too bad, the headlines, could have read "Mayor forgoes vacation to assist his town!" Mayor Short, wouldn't this have been a better headline, paid or not??

FourScore

2:55 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

"I am bloody sick of hearing you babies crying "We need leadership". Please list some SPECIFIC VERIFIABLE TASKS, ACTIONS, or DUTIES that you believe the mayor failed to perform, and cite your evidence. Better still, tell us exactly how YOU would have gone about performing those tasks, actions or duties if you had been mayor during this event."

1) Prior to the storm, establish a contact with JCP&L who agrees to provide daily reports during the duration of the outages.

2) Set up a daily conference call with this contact, and include mayors from other west Morris towns (ie; strength in numbers).

3) Provide daily updates to the town residents through the following medium; the township website (for those who have internet), WRNJ broadcasts, phone messages to all residents via the Honeywell instant alert system.

In these updates, provide; A) updates from the daily JCP&L conference, B) road conditions, including which are closed, and which have been reopened, C) shelters in the township and what services they have (ie; heat, showers, recharging stations, internet access, etc.). D) what township businesses are open and operational.

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Kevin Nedd

3:03 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

To follow up on update A) what specific actions were planned for that day by JCPL and what did they accomplish against the plan?

Also did the Mayor extend an invite to the CEO of JCPL to visit Long Valley and see the damage firsthand? Even if the JCPL CEO had declined, it would have demonstrated thought leadership on the part of the Mayor, something he clearly lacks.

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Jon

8:37 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Bravo Hookerman, finally some tangible ideas that can be discussed with civility! This is FAR better than incessant cries of "We need leadership", "The mayor is in over his head", and "The mayor is incompetent". Those vapid remarks get us nowhere.

Now to discuss your ideas a little:
1) Good one. JCP&L WAS providing outage figures regularly. As we all know, they fluctuated a lot. Perhaps they were real, perhaps it was poor data management, I dunno. An inquiry is needed.
2) I'm picturing a bunch of mayors all saying "No, come restore MY town first. We have got it worse." Not sure I want to be that JCP&L guy! But I see your point.
3 A-D) As I said in another post, I had felt strongly that data dissemination could have been improved. Then I learned about 876-4633 and that gave me a way to get the data I needed. There was simply too much data to give it all out via WRNJ and phone messages. This type of data needs to be "pulled" by the person who needs it on an as-needed basis. Just reading a list of every road in town would take you 10 minutes, even without saying whether the road was open or exactly where the closures were. Who is going to sit through that? It's just like the old school closures on the radio. I don't need to hear about the other 14 towns, I just need to hear my own. Then you cough or sneeze and you miss it. No good.

I'm not trying to squash your ideas. The dialog is good and we need to keep it going. Patch says I'm out of typing space on this one...

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FourScore

8:16 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

This week, the Honeywell Instant Alert system listed the changes to every bus route in the township that was affected by the hurricane. If they can put all that into a phome msg, they can put road closures. If someone doesn't want to listen to it all, they can simply hang up. But the information would be there fore anyone who wants it.

FourScore

2:58 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

4) Every 2 or 3 days, hold an open forum in the town hall where residents can come and ask specific questions.

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Kevin Nedd

3:29 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The Mayor won't even answer the question whether or not Vice Mayor Bill Roehrich is with him in Aruba. How "open" could the "forum" be?

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IamNobody

5:01 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Yup hold a meeting every 2 or 3 days to answer questions you can't and tell us you don't know anything because JCP&L are chuckleheads. This way everyone could burn gas getting to the meeting and then just get REALLY mad.

Hmmm....

Woody

3:44 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

5) Tell the people that can't cope when times are tough to move if they don't like it here

Good Lord people, get a life! If there had been this 'Master Plan' nothing would have changed. It was a natural disaster. If Mayor Short had contacted each one of you every day, either by phone, email, text or whatever, would that have made you feel better? Really? STOP WHINING AND COMPLAINING. Next time you hear about a major storm coming-PREPARE. Don't call the Mayor, Police, Patch or Chris Christie. Be a man

citizendoe

3:51 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

To add to the list what the mayor could have done:
*The mayor could have also used a Facebook or Twitter account to get news out to about road closures ,gas station openings, where to buy food, etc. for those who had internet access.
*The mayor could have provided video updates on Facebook to the residents of Long Valley.
*He could have utilized food trucks to deliver food and water to residents who could not get out of their homes.
Visited folks at the library, firehouse, senior center to reassure them that he working for the town

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Kevin Nedd

4:29 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

6) Stay in town until the vast majority of residents had power.

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Jon

8:45 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

6) Kevin, I just HAVE to ask you because I'm dying to understand WHY you keep saying the mayor should have stayed in town until the vast majority of residents had power. (And by the way, I think only 780 were without power when he left, but that's not germane to my point.) Please elucidate for me: What specific personal needs of yours were not met as a result of the mayor not being physically in Long Valley since last Friday? What specific hardship or loss did you personally incur as a result of his being on vacation? Or are you merely attempting to speaking on behalf of some unnamed others whom you feel were personally harmed in some way but do not have a voice? Help me understand your reasoning please.
Also, please explain precisely HOW you feel that the residents without power would have benefited by the mayor being physically present in town? I'm sorry for being so thick, but I just don't get that.

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Kevin Nedd

9:48 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

1. A vast majority of residents were without power when the Mayor left town.

2. For me it's a matter of principle. Having served in our naval forces, I fully subscribe to a leadership concept where you don't abandon ship while rescue efforts are still underway. For the landlubbers, the concept of leaving no man behind could also apply. It's the same reason our Governor chose not to attend a campaign for Romney in PA (20 min. away) during the last weekend of the campaign. He declined, stating his duties in NJ were too important.

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Jon

10:20 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

To me, "vast majority" means well over half. I'd have to see the stats before blindly believing you on that one.

Thanks for clarifying that you feel the mayor should have stuck around just on principle. That helps a lot for me to understand just how badly you were personally harmed by his vacation, i.e. not at all. Now we can all see for certain that you are just a whiner with some sort of axe to grind.

You can't compare this with the governor's role, since the governor position actually does have power. As I read the town code, it is the Township Committee that has the power, not the mayor. The mayor role appears to be primarily ceremonial in nature. I'll welcome corrections from legal scholars far more knowledgeable than I about NJ Township law.

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Kevin Nedd

11:42 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I never claimed any personal harm. We'll see how much personal harm comes to the Mayor when he is recalled in early 2014.

Domino

5:18 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I think most people have already made up their minds about this issue and are not going to be swayed by the arguments made by the Short supporters, particularly when it is obvious that most of them come from his political inner circle and are little more than political spin. Particularly offensive is this notion that he is somehow the victim here and should quit after "what the town did to him" and the idea that "we are so lucky to have him". The personal attacks on posters who don't agree with the theme of this article aren't helping his cause either. His political career is toast.

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Jon

8:57 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Domino, I strongly suspect that you are calling me a "Short supporter", and accusing me of being in his political inner circle. So let me clear the air on that one: I have never met Mr. Short. I don't know Mr. Short. In fact, I very deliberately did not VOTE for Mr. Short, for two reasons: 1) I never saw any campaign statement from him, nor any statement in which he asked for my vote or justified why he should get it; and 2) I reasoned that even without my vote, he would almost certainly win, since he was disappointingly unopposed. (Although after seeing the way this lynch mob has behaved, I'm sure anyone who at any point had considered running for mayor is breathing a sigh of relief for dodging a big bullet!)

I am new to this town, and I am simply a person who prides himself on being reasonable, practical, and possessing a good deal of common sense. And my common sense tells me that regardless of WHO our mayor was during this storm, and regardless of WHAT that mayor may have tried to do, the outcome would have been essentially the same. This was a huge natural disaster, and in the battle of man vs. mother nature, man has NO CHANCE of winning, if you hadn't noticed. Every property owner in this country has a personal moral (and legal) obligation to take appropriate measures to protect their own family and property. (I say legal because your mortgage requires you to maintain your house, if you have a mortgage.) I depend on nobody but myself in incidents like this.

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Jerry Gordon

7:31 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Domino thinks....Hmm does anyone find Irony in that?

Kevin Nedd

5:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I personally look forward to leading the recall effort against Mayor Short in early 2014 with a simply worded question that will read as follows:

"Do you support the recall of Mayor Kenneth Short for abandoning our township in the aftermath of Tropical Storm Sandy to take an Aruba vacation, while thousands of his fellow Washington Township residents remained in their homes without power?"

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Kevin Nedd

5:31 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I don't think getting signatures of 25% of voting residents will be an issue.

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Alice Jameson

9:33 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Kevin:

Will you be leading the recall from here or Hawaii?

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Thomas Lotito

9:35 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Kevin, are you going to run this from Hawaii?

Jersey

6:02 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I agree that no on will be swayed in their opinion at this point, as all the major complaints and defenses have pretty much been aired.

I would, however, like to point out one thing not directly related to whether or not the mayor should have left. In his letter to residents, he assured us that he was communicative and working hard from Aruba. But unless I've missed something, that was his last communication to his town. (This after specifically being under fire for poor communication.)

Again, my sincere thanks to those who picked up the ball and ran with it in his absence, including whoever posted the 11/13 power update on the township website.

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Kevin Nedd

6:10 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I think you meant "major complaints and excuses" have pretty much been aired.

Angelo

7:23 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Is this Channel 9 NY report saying that the Mayor and Vice Mayor were together in Aruba with their wives correct or not? http://www.my9tv.com/video?clipId=7956223&topVideoCatNo=240181&autoStart=true

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Kevin Nedd

7:33 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Great publicity for our township, huh?

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Kathlyn Carter

10:40 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Yes, Kevin, that channel 9 clip is great publicity for our township. I'll bet it was one of those Short defenders that initiated that (sarc). I especially like the way Short's vacation was lumped in with the mayors who took generators for their personal use. It was so cool how they jumped from a picture of a big generator directly to the Long Valley Mayor who took a vacation. For the public that watched this, some of them might be wondering "The Mayor of Washington Township took a generator for his own use and then went on vacation?"

In_the_dark

7:45 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Here is another reference that Roehrich and his wife are in Aruba with Mayor Short:

http://bonosrama.newsvine.com/_news/2012/11/12/15113590-mayor-vacations-while-town-still-suffers-from-sandys-effects-he-reminds-critics-that-he-is-not-paid-anything

Those in the know regarding Roehrich's whereabouts are being very quiet

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Thomas Lotito

9:29 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

In_the_dark, Is channel 9 the best you can do? No one get's their news from channel 9, not even little old ladies in Brooklyn. If you played the video out your window in LV more people would have seen it than on channel 9.

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Kevin Nedd

10:11 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Tom,

"In_the_dark" didn't provide the link to the video, It was first provided by “Angelo”. At least get the names right of the people you are attempting to smear.

The distribution of the video is irrelevant with respect to the validity of its content. In this case the content is very damaging to your dear friend (per the OT) Mayor Short.

Domino

7:53 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

One thing the mayor could be doing if he were here...I noticed today that Mount Olive is assisting residents with applying to FEMA for aid. Is any of that happening in Aruba..I mean Washington Township? If so, whom do residents get in touch with?
This crisis didn't end when the power was restored. It continues now, something the mayor (and apparently vice-mayor also) do not understand. One final point - if the vice mayor is the "dear friend" who has accompanied Mr. Short on this trip, was has the mayor been hiding this fact? That alone would be a reason for Mr. Short to resign.

thewordgo

8:09 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

As much as I think Short should go, I DEFINITELY do not want Roehrich as Mayor, or dog catcher for that matter. The Short apologists are ridiculous - we know he is not to blame for the storm and we know how culpable JCP&L is, but that does not excuse the abandonment of his mayoral responsibilities paid or unpaid. WHile the town remains in crisis, the mayor should be here.

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Kevin Nedd

8:13 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I hope you feel the same way in 12 months when the movement to recall Mayor Short kicks into high gear.

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Jon

9:01 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Sorry for the newbie question, but where can I go to find the document that lists the responsibilities and duties of the mayor of this town? Is it published anywhere?

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Jon

9:29 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Very cool, thanks for that link to the Code!
It says: "The Mayor shall preside at meetings of the Township Committee and perform such other duties as the Township Committee may prescribe." Then it goes on to say, "The Mayor shall have the power to make proclamations concerning holidays and events of interest to the Township. He may from time to time appoint citizens' committees to inquire into matters that are of interest to the Township, and he shall have such other appointment powers as are conferred upon him by law; all appointments shall be subject to confirmation except where otherwise provided by law. He shall have and exercise the ceremonial power of the Township, and he shall exercise every other power usually exercised by Township mayors and conferred upon him by law."

I'm no lawyer, but I don't see anything in there that seems relevant to the situation at hand. Which of those duties do folks feel were breached?

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Kevin Nedd

9:58 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

How about "he shall exercise every other power usually exercised by Township mayors and conferred upon him by law."

You don't think this includes ensuring the health, safety, and well being of all the township's residents?

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Jon

10:54 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I have no idea what it means or was intended to mean. It's much too vague for me to understand. Can you point to some case law, or identify which other laws they are referring to when they say "conferred upon him by law" ?

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Kevin Nedd

11:45 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

They have this really neat invention called "Google". People use it to look stuff up that they don't understand.

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Jason Koestenblatt

8:35 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

OK everyone, thanks for the comments. Let's stop with the personal insults and attacks and keep to the topic at hand, please. We'd like for the conversation to be productive and not have to shut the thread, but we'll close the comments if the name calling continues. Thanks!

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Kevin Nedd

8:41 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Jason,

Why not just delete the offending posts?

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Thomas Lotito

9:25 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Jason, closing the forum is not the answer. Moderating the comments is the key to a successful dialogue.If people know that personal attacks are not permitted they will tine down the rhetoric. I would never allow what goes on on the Patch to go on my at my website.
All that's going on here is that a bunch of sore losers of past elections are bashing the Mayor. Notice they're ignoring the work of Tracy Tobin, Jim Liaabraaten and Dave Kennedy?

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Kevin Nedd

9:38 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Tom,

It's not bashing....it's called holding the Mayor accountable for his dereliction of duty and extreme poor judgment.

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Kevin Nedd

8:50 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Greg,

Your deflection and belittling tactics won't save Mayor Short this time. Township resident's are not stupid and won't forget who went to Aruba while the majority of neighbors were without power.

http://www.my9tv.com/video?clipId=7956223&topVideoCatNo=240181&autoStart=true

Diggy

8:56 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The one thing I've learned after reading the days of unending bickering on the subject of Mayor Short's presence (or physical lack thereof) during the storm and it's aftermath: Washington Township doesn't appear to need a Mayor at all! With no disrespect to Mr. Short, what those who support or chastise him have learned through this "crisis" is that the office of Mayor holds very little importance or clout, if any at all, both with the residents and beyond (the utility companies, etc.) Frankly, I'm willing to bet that at least 50% of Washington Township residents wouldn't know their Mayor if he passed them on the street anyway.

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Jon

10:50 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Diggy, if the mayor's sole responsibility is to ensure that the township residents all have electric service at their homes, then you are probably right, he is not needed.

My understanding of the mayoral role is that preservation or restoration of electric power for the townspeople is not one of his official responsibilities. In fact, I am firmly of the opinion that that is something between me and my electricity provider, and I neither expect nor need anyone else to intervene on my behalf when it comes to that.

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Kevin Nedd

11:38 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The mayor and committee are not responsible for the restoration of power. But they are responsible for coordinating the efforts to ensure our roads are passable so that the repair crews can get to the areas in need of repair. Isn't safe passage a duty of the committee? How about advocating on behalf of the town with the power companies as well? Is that not his job?

John

7:10 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Can we please stop bringing up that the position is not paid? You run for the position knowing full well it doesn't pay. You ask for the responsibility. When it gets to much, don't start telling everyone how it's not a paid position.

Mary

7:36 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

The Mayor put his own self interests in front of his constituents. He made a very poor choice.

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Thomas Lotito

8:09 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

How were you personally harmed by not having the mayor in town during the storm? Mayor Short put Tracy Tobin in charge. Are you saying Tracy Tobin was a poor choice?

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Mary

8:58 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

No, Thomas I did not say Tracy was a poor choice. The decision to get on the plane was the Mayor's very poor decision. I was not personally harmed, but disappointed that an elected official put his interests first.

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Thomas Lotito

10:25 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Mary, I disagree with you but I hope you and your family and home are OK. You are saying Tracy was a poor choice. Your statment is political. Tracy Tobin said it rightly below. Having the Mayor here wouldn't have made First Energy get the power restored any faster. It's incumbent upon our selves to prepare for the storm by having generator and supplies on hand for at least a 1 week period. It's also out duty to check on our neighbors especially senior citizens who might need water and food and heat.

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Kevin Nedd

10:46 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Tom,

"The Mayor put his own self interests in front of his constituents. He made a very poor choice."

Mary expressed her opinion with respect to the Mayor's actions vs. her expectations. How is this "political"?

Carol

7:43 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Carol
All I ever wanted from the Mayor during this crises was to see him in our neighborhood...knocking on our doors, talking with us, shaking hands, giving hugs, reassuring all of us that even though there won't be power for a while, we're in this together. Just his presence is all we're asking...not to be in ARUBA during the worst time in Long Valley's history. No, he may not have been able to do anything more personally, but just having him here was all that was needed. He just doesn't get it.

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Jerry Gordon

7:58 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Carol, the Mayor and should have shown up with his reindeer and a sleigh full of gifts too.

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12345678

8:17 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Really? You wanted a hug from the Mayor? You needed reassurance from your Mayor? "We're in this together"? Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds?!

People really have become way to dependent on the gov't.

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Mary

8:29 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Carol, I completely agree with you.

Tracy Tobin

8:05 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Response to Resident comments Part 2
The Mayor turned over responsibility for town recovery operations at 5:00 p.m. on Friday Nov. 9. He updated me on the current status of recovery efforts, gave me key names and contact numbers for First Energy, JCPL, State & Local contacts/ advised that Out of State Utility Recovery crews were arriving and setting up operations and starting to work and to send out communications updates on a regular basis.
JCP&L was supposed to update me throughout the day on progress as they were in direct control of the recovery teams From Duke Energy/Penn Power/Service Electric who had the majority of the recovery crews in town. The communication process quickly broke down as JCP&L updates were few, my calls were not returned, information came in late in the day and was frequently incomplete or inaccurate. Responding to a flood of calls from residents, even with two volunteer OEM team members working with me, left me with little opportunity to update the Town website/WRNJ/Patch and the OT.
As the Out of State restoral crews dug into the problems, it became apparent that damage to power substations outside the town was substantial and work on power work on lines inside our town would go slowly. Since the Power crews were contracted by JCP&L and recieved their assignments from JCP&L, we had no direct contact or information feedback from the restoral teams. JCP&L updates were minimal, came late in the date and were incomplete and frequently inaccurate.

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Jason Koestenblatt

8:13 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thanks so much for the clarification, Tracy. Greatly appreciated.

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Mary

8:14 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Tracy, this isn't about J C P & L's response. Its about why the Mayor did not demonstrate empathy to suffering residents.

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12345678

8:20 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thank you for all of your efforts dealing with the power outages. I appreciate any effort made on my behalf.
It sure would have been nice if all of the complainers here actually stepped up and did something for themselves and their neighbors rather than sit behind their computer screens complaining about what one man did not do for them....

Robert

8:27 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Game 7 World Series. Bottom of the 9th, two outs, bases loaded, Yankees down by one. What happens if Joe Girardi walks out of the dugout to go on his Bermuda golf vacation booked eight months in advance? His team's got this one right? Leave it to the bench coach to finish the game. What would his team think? What would the fans think? What would ownership think? A natural disaster like this is pretty much the most important thing that a Mayor has to deal with. The situation dragged on for two weeks. JCP&L finally sent in crews to fix things, but with 80% of the town still out of power, the mayor decides to go on vacation. He showed his leadership style, not just then but much earlier in this disaster. The LV schools and Morris County Office of Emergency Management communicated better than the mayor. I listened to his appearances on WRNJ and I had the feeling that our Mayor was content to sit back and believe JCP&L's lies instead of going out and demanding that they get here. I'm not angry, but disappointed. We can't blame the mayor for giving us Sandy or for JCP&L lying about the power restoration. But we can question the Mayor on his leadership. Fortunately other leaders stepped up, they always do. Power eventually came back and the mayor and his family got their vacations. Good and good. Just don't expect me to vote for you as a leader of my community next election. My perception is that you didn't do anything to help my family.

Tracy Tobin

8:27 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Response to Resident Comments Part 1. Lost original so out of sequence.
Mayor Short advised the Township Committee early in October, long before SANDY was being discussed as a storm threat, that he would be away on vacation starting Nov. 9. Committeeman Roerich advised he would also be away. The two Committee members were not traveling together nor staying in the same locations. Mayor Short's storm preparations started before Sandy struck and included coordination with County OEM, setting up assignments for Town Departments and Emergency Response Team volunteers, having the township website updated with storm related information, etc. He worked from Oct 27 through 5:00 p.m. on Nov. 9 communicationg with the media, County, Legislative representatives, local Mayors, JCP&L, First Energy, traveling around Town to get a first hand view of damage and working with Town departments on power restoral efforts. JCP&L contracted with Out of State Power utility companies, under Mutual Aid agreements, for restoral teams to come in and work on our outages, Initial responses from the other utilities were only about 20% of what was requested in work crews. A number of shelters in our disaster plan were not available due to lack of power. VERIZON/ATT and NIXLE communications systems, part of the town communication plan, were out of service during early stages of the storm due to damage to their facilities. Township DPW worked hard to get town roads clear but had to be alert for downed wires.

Dennis White

8:30 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thanks to Tracy Tobin for that info.

On the issue of Mayor Short's absence: This was, I beleive, the worst storm ever recorded in this area. The question, it seems to me, is not whether Mr. Short left matters in capable hands, but rather whether it was his responsibility to stay here and do everything he could to makes things right while many of his constituents were suffering. This he decided not to do, and the only explanation offered was that it would have been quite inconvenient to him and his family for him to do so.
Not good enough.

Mr. Short put his own interests first here. His reminding us that he serves without pay makes matters no better. If you want to be the mayor, be the best mayor possible, Don't ask us to settle for less because we didn't pay for services rendered.

Tracy Tobin

8:49 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Response to Resident Comments Part 3
Saturday and Sunday Nov. 10 & 11 were frustrating days for residents and Township as accurate information on restoral progress was hard to come by. I resorted to utilizing Committeemen Liabratten and Kennedy, DPW Supervisor Scott Frech and my own "road trips" to track down restoral crews and finally some of their supervisors to determine the actual state of repairs and try and get estimates when power would be restored. The estimates were not "by 3:00 p.m" types of information but more along the lines of "hopefully early this evening" or "not until tomorrow". The work crews were dealing with downed trees/shattered utility poles/damaged transformers, etc. where worker safety was an important consideration. Some of the downed trees were huge and required a lot of work just to get them cut up and moved out of the roadways. Lack of familiarity with the town required sending dpw and police employees with work crews to get them to the right location. A number of calls from out of town residents concerned about not hearing from parents and relatives, fuel outages for homes with medical equipment, and follow up "wellness checks" on known elderly and residents with known medical problems also absorbed available manpower. It was literally late in the day on Saturday that major blockages were cleared restoring power to hundreds of homes, and three of the schools had reliable power. Late Sunday the remaining schools and most developments had power.

Tracy Tobin

9:09 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Response to Residents Part 4
Finally an answer from my propective to the question of whether power would have been restored faster if the Mayor had cancelled his vacation. In mynot so humble opinion NO! There may have better and more frequent communication with the residents, but the Out of State work crews would not have worked faster or more efficiently if the Mayor was standing beside them with a whip in his hand. I don't believe JCP&L would have answered his calls for information any better or worse than they responded to mine. Since I was without power from Oct 29 to Nov 11 I think my family and I fulfilled residents requirements that their elected official experience the same lack of power, heat, spoiled food thrown out, etc. that they did. The town employees, Committeemen and volunteers responded to my requests, demands and orders as if I was the real Mayor. When I was contacted by the media, I gave the best information I had available. Do I have a long list of things that I think we should do, do differently, etc. in preparing for any future emergencies? HECK YES, and so do many of the employees, volunteers and residents. Do we have to go after our Governor, BPU and Legislators to make changes in JCP&L? You can bet your sweet bippy I know we do! I am sure I will see many of you on Monday at the Committee Public meeting. You can express you displeasure with me to my face! Just don't tell me that the Mayor is younger, prettier or more competent than me. He's not!

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FourScore

9:28 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Question Tracy; last year there was a special meeting held specifically to address the issues with the power outages after Irene and the snow storm (with reps from JCP&L). Do you anticipate having another one of those sessions, or will this be handled at the regulalry scheduled committee meeting? I'm sure there may be many residents who would like to express their opinions on the handling of the storm, but I wasn't sure whether the town council wanted to handle this at a regular committee meeting, or hold a special one just for that agenda.

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Kathlyn Carter

11:11 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thank you Tracy for all of the factual information. It won't make any difference to the complainers. They come from the school of "It is the government's responsibility to take care of me". I'd love to know if any of the complainers attended any of the meetings last year about JCP&L and/or if they have ever attended any of the monthly town meetings.

patticakes

9:11 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I am not a supporter of Mayor Short's decision to leave town, but I am appreciative of Tracy Tobin and all of his efforts. He clearly should be mayor.
This leaves me wondering why Mr. Short is not communicating this information to the residents of Long Valley himself from Aruba? I thought he was in constant contact with the residents? As a matter of fact, has he communicated any information to the town since he released his letter on Sunday? Has he returned from his trip yet? Know one knows because he has remained silent yet again....

jbrickey

10:23 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I was under the impression that Ken Short was a republican. You wouldn't know it from his apparent allergy to actually do work, his refusal to take responsibility for his own actions (and lack of responsibility overall) and his love for property taxes. It looks like Long Valley has gotten themselves quite a democrat for mayor.

Woody

10:27 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Mr. Mayor, I need a hug! LMAO. You people are utterly sad and pathetic. I feel extremely sad for the future of this Country.

HistorianWT

10:30 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thank you, Tracy. Class act.

To summarize, the transition of responsibility, to the extent anything could still be done outside of JCPL, was made smoothly, professionally and with more than two weeks notice. Tracy and the other elected officials handled the remaining tasks with efficiency and there was no loss of service or leadership by the Township Committee.

Someone wanted door-to-door hugs, which apparently would have been a good use of elected officials' time. Get a dog.

The problem, and I think it rings very true spelled out above, seems to be two deposed bitter former officials who have done nothing but cause trouble since they were booted, Emory and Nedd. Calling them "jock sniffers" at this point is rather disgusting but clearly accurate.

Tracy, I believe, is the most experienced Township Committeeman and a former mayor multiple times over, right Tracy?). Although, unfortunately, perhaps not the huggy type.

Apparently we needed some politician in love with the camera who would walk down the beach for a photo op and fly off to a battleground state with Bruce Springsteen.

Liberty

11:58 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Ok, Kathlyn, how is suggesting you be mayor a personal attack? And everyone in our town has the right to complain how the effects of Sandy were handled. You didn't get the littlest bit irritated when your power went out? I don't know why JCP&L took so long to fix this, I hope we learn this after the dust has settled. My power was out, I had no water (well with pump) and an enormous tree fell on my house. People actually stopped in front of my house to take pictures, but not one asked if we were ok or needed help. So we took care of ourselves, but that doesn't mean I wasn't angry every night we went to bed in a cold house with no water. Just like thousands of others in town. But then I heard what happened at Belle Harbor and Breezy Point and considered ourselves very lucky to still have a house at all and know that eventually there would be power and life would return to normal. Those people have a hard road ahead of them and their least concern is power. AND I don't think the mayor and his second should have left town. If they aren't together, they shouldn't have scheduled trips at the same time. And most people of even moderate intellect buy travel ins! It was poor judgment, blah, blah, what everybody else said. Why does no one get this--the mayor doesn't leave town in a crisis!

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Kathlyn Carter

1:56 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Dear Liberty,
Everyone does have a right to complain. It is the manner in which some are doing the complaining that is disturbing. Is it necessary to use insults, threats, and mean-spirited comments for some to get their point across? Does it serve any purpose to say "most people of moderate intellect buy travel ins!" Maybe after working endless hours to make sure that anything humanly possible was done to fix the immediate crisis, the Mayor felt it would be OK to leave for the vacation that he and his wife looked forward to for 8 months. I guess that he is as clueless as I am as to how much this town has changed.

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Jason Koestenblatt

2:01 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

For Tom Lotito, I wanted to respond to your remark about me being a left-wing journalist.

As you know and have been told numerous times in the past, Patch is an objective publication. We don't endorse candidates or lean one way or another. But the reason I want to address you is because you falsely stated that I am a "hardcore left wing journalist."

As you can read in my biography, which is open for all to see here (http://longvalley.patch.com/users/jason-koestenblatt), that's a bit far from the truth, according to my political and religious beliefs. I'm not so sure where the "every day is beat up on Christians and conservatives day" came from or why it was stated, either. Doesn't really make sense in this context.

Anyhow, I just wanted to clarify where I stood personally, but I do remain objective in my reporting, as that is Patch's top priority.

Thanks so much for always reading Long Valley Patch and often commenting on the issues you find so important, Tom. Your support is greatly appreciated.

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Sarah Beth

3:31 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

You're fine Jason. As a "hardcore" left wing liberal, I have not seen one article of yours that has pushed this view. I also commend you for always being kind to these kind of comments. Kudos.

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Domino

4:03 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Dear Jason: Please keep up the good work. You and the patch have been a tremendous asset to Washington Township. As far as the stupid comments directed at you are concerned, do what everyone else does: consider the source. Take it as a badge of honor.

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Thomas Lotito

4:23 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Jason, You say you've been objective, however; you ignored reporting election results in the June primary concerning David Larsen. I have an email from you saying it wasn't your job. Moreover, any time there's an election you write more favorably about any challenger to Republicans.
You say you're objective, but have you ever done an article on Dave Kennedy and the lies he's told as a committeeman? Don't you think it newsworthy that an elected official is claiming that enforcing the law is a conspiracy against him? Or how's about an article on former Committeeman and Democrat, Kevin Nedd for his conviction for harassing a local family on his website?
Every day is bash the Christian day because every time I comment on an issue on the Patch and talk about my faith you allow childish taunting and bullying to be spewed directly at me with no restraint by posters hiding behind pseudonyms. Have you confronted or banned or taken down wtgodot's threatening remark to me today? " lotita needs protection" This is a threat Jason and you've allowed this to stand, not to mention the constant bashing of Mayor short on this thread.

My remark that you're a left wing journalist stands until you or the Patch editors decide to clean up these comments sections and give fair and equal coverage to the Republicans. Maybe then the LV Patch will be worth contributing to. I hope to continue a journalistic relationship with you, but I'll leave that up to you.

TL

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Kevin Nedd

5:14 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Journalistic relationship? Is that anything like a platonic relationship?

Liberty

2:29 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Dear Kathlyn, My comment about buying travel ins was two-fold: I knew you would jump on it and, buying it IS a smart, inexpensive way to protect oneself. If you don't like the way people complain, too bad, don't read the Patch. Maybe some people are so distressed and annoyed that their complaints do come across less than "friendly." I don't know what the mayor was thinking, just the part where he thought it was ok to leave. Life's full of disappointments, we deal with them. I do agree with you that the mayor is clueless. Don't you think everybody else worked endless hours to take care of their families? A major natural disaster hits the town and you think because people, in their frustration, complain about it, means the town has changed? You're right there, too--you are clueless.
And Jason--I think Tom's remark was way out of line and you have shown great restraint.

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Kathlyn Carter

4:01 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Just can't stop with the name calling and twisting people's words, can you Liberty? I am impressed that I am so important that you made the comment about buying trip insurance just for me and whatever the other reason was. It is nice to see that we were able to agree about something...the fact that I am clueless. I really did not have any idea that so many people like you and in-the-dark and all of the other mean-spirited people had moved into Long Valley. Yes, people spent endless hours taking care of their family. Most people do that even when there is not a crisis. The Mayor had to do that as well as help his entire community. Did you read Tracy Tobin's comments? Are you willing to help us fight JCP&L and the Board of Public Utilities? If you were involved last year, then you know what a monumental task that is. If you weren't involved last year, would you be willing to help out this year. Whoever the Mayor will be, I'm sure they would welcome all of the help that they can get. You will, however, need to learn how to have discourse without getting nasty and resorting to name calling or you will do more harm than good.

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12345678

4:18 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Kathlyn, I think most of Long Valley did what they had to do and appreciate that the only thing we had to endure was a couple of weeks without power. I can't imagine what those complaining would do in the event of a real catastrophe..

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Kevin Nedd

4:30 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Well for starters we would not look to Mayor Short to lead us though the crisis!

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Liberty

4:37 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I only repeated what you said, that you were clueless. Don't be impressed, because you just don't get it--you're not important at all. You say the same stuff over and over, ad nauseum. And that last sentence of yours, you need to practice what you preach.

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12345678

4:41 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Kevin, that's correct. I would not be looking to our small town mayor to lead me through a crisis.

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Liberty

4:43 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Don't want to mislead--the comment below is for Kathlyn. The one who doesn't like name-calling but says we're all mean-spirited.

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Kevin Nedd

4:59 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

So if we have a blizzard of epic proportions and your street has not been cleared of snow for 10 days, you don't think the Mayor is ultimately responsible?

Kristina Cunningham

2:31 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I have an opinion regarding the mayor and his vacation but.....

Does anyone know how storm damage gets assessed by First Energy? Is there a storm damage assessment crew that comes out? Or do they make assumptions based on our calls to their outage line?

From talking to the crews who were working on the lines in the area I heard the same thing over and over "no one was truly aware of the damage this area encountered". 2 separate crews - same statement made. Even the supervisor at the pole staging area mentioned the magnitude of repair was greater than what they were lead to believe. Who is responsible for reporting? Because first and foremost that issue needs to be addressed. Then let's trickle down to our out of town mayor.

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Kathlyn Carter

5:10 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Hi Kristina. Through my personal experiences, the problem is a lack of communication within the Power Company. A couple of days after the storm I saw a JCP&L truck assessing the damage on our street. A couple of days after that I called JCP&L and spoke to a representative to let them know that we still have downed wires and have to drive under uprooted trees being held up by wires. I was told not to drive over any wires. I told the rep that we had no choice if we needed to get out of here. Approximately one hour later someone did respond, jotted things down on a pad, moved all of the wires on the road over to the side and put up signs closing our road. However, to get out of here we still had to drive under trees being held up by the wires. Several days later I called again and someone responded and was jotting down notes. On the evening of 11/10, a tree company was here to start work on cutting the trees. They had to leave when it got dark. On 11/11 when the trucks rolled into town, I drove around until I found a couple of trucks. I asked what I could expect and was told that it was possible that we would not get our power back on that day because the damage was much worse than what they expected. The truck was from Duke Energy and they said that someone would be coming out to assess the damage in my area. Shortly later a truck drove up our street taking notes. By some miracle, we did finally get our power back that evening.

Kathlyn Carter

3:22 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Jason, thank you for providing an invaluable service to our community. The Patch is a major resource to obtain local information. It is sad that now some out there are shooting the messenger. Maybe I'm missing something, but I haven't seen anything that would give me a hint on where you stand on the current controversy. I always found you to be objective and responsive to the needs of this community (BTW, I am not a friend or relative of Jason). Thanks again and keep up the good work!

Sarah Beth

3:28 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

After reading all of the comments post-Sandy I have become discouraged by this community. I am a 21-year-old college student and yet I feel older than most of these "brave" commenters. That isn't to say there are some genuine good commenters as well, but the majority seem juvenile.

Please Long Valley citizens, think of the glass half full. My friends home was washed away, people are homeless right now as we speak due to this storm. People died. Did you hear about that one poor mother in New York whose children were dragged from her in the storm and they died? And what did we have? We lost electricity. Was it frustrating? Of course! But we have our lives, our health, and our homes.

It is discouraging to think that in a time where the community needs to unite, we instead play the blame game and whine continuously. And the anger towards JCP&L? My best friends dad hasn't been home in 2 weeks he has been working so hard for them. The workers haven't seen their families and are most likely working through Thanksgiving. Think of the extent of the damage Sandy had created. It isn't as simple as everyone is making it out to be. They got our power up and running in 2 weeks which was to be expected. Long Island's company, LIPA, failed so badly and most people still don't have power. JCP&L however got the job done.
I just learned about the rationing that went on in WW2. It went on for 5 years in England and it united the people. Why can't we do that? Think about what we have guys

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Kevin Nedd

3:50 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Sarah,

This thread is about the incompetence and poor judgment demonstrated by our Mayor who abandoned his township while a majority of his constituents sat in their cold dark homes without power. No one here is saying people did not suffer or that others have not responded with tremendous efforts to help.

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Sarah Beth

4:01 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Perhaps my comment would be better off in one of the various other threads, agreed. I just think we should sort of focus on the matters at hand rather than getting all riled up was my points. I have been following every article Patch has released and I was commenting on the people that keep bashing JCP&L (Which this article does seem to have) and the complainers.

I used this thread to respond because it seems to be getting a lot of attention and I wanted people to put things into perspective.

Thanks for the response though. I respect your opinion

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Kevin Nedd

4:17 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I don't see anyone "riled up". No one is threatening to harm the Mayor. I see people expressing their displeasure with the Mayor. He is an elected official and should be accustomed and open to feedback, even if it is harsh.

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Sarah Beth

4:29 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Kevin,

Read more comments then. There are a lot of people getting testy in this thread but I more so meant other threads where people were flipping out over the whole no power JCP&L situation. I also never meant "riled up" as in "death threats". I think we maybe have a different definition of the phrase. I agree the Mayor needs feedback, and I for one think maybe he did use some poor judgment and am not totally on his side. Like I said, perhaps my comment was best for another thread but I hoped someone would read it and put things into perspective.

Again, my comment was for people throughout this ordeal who were extremely childish in behavior, not necessarily for everyone on here right now.

Cheers

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Kevin Nedd

4:36 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Sarah,

Well spoken Sarah. I have a daughter who is a senior in college (thank God!). Good luck in your classes. I'm sure your parents are proud!

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Kathlyn Carter

4:36 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Very well said, Sarah Beth. It is uplifting to know that someone as young as you can rise above the bitterness and put things in perspective. I would like to clarify, however, that most of us who complained about JCP&L are referring to corporate headquarters, not the people out there doing the job. I feel as bad for them, and maybe even more, than I do for us the consumer. I said that every time that I spoke to a representative on the phone and the linemen in the field. We were out there giving the linemen coffee, water, soda, snacks. There were so many States represented on our one block alone. The JCP&L employees should not have to go through this time and time again. And the out of state crews should not have to be away from their families for weeks at a time bailing us out. Sandy was a horrible storm, but long power outages have a history in this area starting way before Sandy. The linemen from out of state will tell you how antiquated the power equipment in our area is. Some JCP&L employees have called radio stations anonymously to air their own grievances. For the most part, however, the employees cannot speak for themselves for fear of losing their jobs. To fight to fix or get rid of First Energy, the parent company, is not just for us, but for the JCP&L employees also. Half the staff was laid off when First Energy bought JCP&L. Thanks again for your intelligent and well spoken comments, Sarah Beth. I hope that you have a bright future (no pun intended).

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In_the_dark

4:37 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Sarah Beth,

I believe there a 2 threads referenced here, both touching on what to consider so that "next time" is better. I believe it is clear that very few people believe that JCP&L's response to this issue was far below what many had hoped, and in that regard , the question is when can be done about it.

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The second thread focuses on leadership; was the mayor's decision to go on vacation appropriate or not, and if not, what can be done "to make it better for next time (where was /is Roehrich??)".

Yes many were and are in a less fortunate situation, and from an actionable stand point those that are concerned can donate funds, goods, and their time.

For Long Valley residents, the issue being discussed is whether the majority of voters believe Mayor Short's decision to go to Aruba was appropriate.

I again have to thank Tracy Tobin, as he has stepped into the Mayor role well and is at least making an effort to factually share some of the information surrounding the missing mayor issue

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Kevin Nedd

4:45 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

ITD,

Nice segmentation of the issues at hand.

12345678

4:07 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Your comment is in the correct thread and I totally agree!

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Kevin Nedd

4:13 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Of course you agree...anything to take the spotlight off of Mayor Short's incompetence and poor judgment.

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Jason Koestenblatt

10:16 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

To everyone who has commented on this article,

First and foremost, thanks so much for weighing in on this topic. The two weeks that Washington Township endured during and after Sandy were historic, and nothing short of incredible.

I decided to close the comments section on this post for numerous reasons. While some comments were still on topic, too many were going astray and attacking others. I've deleted a couple dozen of those comments, and I'm sure if I go back and look, can delete many more.

Anyhow, thanks again to everyone for their participation and expressing their opinions.

The next Washington Township Committee meeting is Monday, Nov. 19. I look forward to seeing you all there.

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