Residents Demand Answers from JCP&L
Dozens of residents pummeled JCP&L reps with questions & demands for improvement.
The energy in the room was electric as more than 30 residents voiced their concerns and opinions about their experience with power outages not only resulting from Hurricane Irene and the October 29 snow storm, but ongoing outages, as many as eight long term outages in the past year completely unrelated to weather conditions.
The tone of residents’ comments ranged from deliberate and logical recommendations for change going forward to complete exasperation and raw frustration, as representatives from Jersey Central Power & Light (JCP&L) listened for almost three hours during the Washington Township Committee meeting on Mon. Nov. 21, 2011.
Senator Anthony R. Bucco, and his son Assemblyman Anthony Mark Bucco, also expressed their grave concern over the chronic power outages as well as the handling of the outages related to the two major storms that occurred on August 29 and October 29, 2011.
“This is just not acceptable,” said Senator Bucco to Stan Prater, Area Manager for JCP&L.
Bucco said he was out of power for six days and he knows first hand the hardships that many residents have had to endure.
Of the many comments, the concerns and recommendations came down to a few major demands that included:
* improved communications between JCP&L and its customers during major power outages as well as shorter term, but chronic outages;
* solid commitment from JCP&L to radically upgrade the infrastructure in and around Washington Township which not only would include updating equipment, but also in some cases installing power lines underground, and a more rigorous and frequent tree-trimming schedule;
* significant improvement in planning efforts for additional crews and utilization of electrical workers during major outage events.
Mayor Kenneth Short, who invited JCP&L representatives to meet with the Township Committee and residents, said at the outset that he did not want to dwell on the pain and suffering endured by thousands of residents, but rather focus on specifically what kind of changes and improvements could be made as quickly as possible.
"I'm also looking for absolute assurance and commitment from JCP&L that it will turn around this situation that will no longer be tolerated by residents," said Short.
In response to the many comments and complaints, Prater said that JCP&L has plans to resolve the outage issues through more frequent tree trimming and the installation of a new and critical connection between the Chester sub station 17541 and the Drakestown sub station 17101, that JCP&L engineers expect will alleviate the chronic outage problems for residents in the area of Bartley and Four Bridges Roads, an area that has experienced seven major outages in the last year.
But residents’ like Tracy Tobin, who was recently elected to the Township Committee, is skeptical that the company will make good on its promises.
“What we’ve seen from JCP&L is a company that is reactive, not proactive,” said Tobin.
Long time residents of the township, like Roger Friday said he and his neighbors have been dealing with outages for decades.
“I’m not only one of the black boxes on the map that the company refers to when an outage occurs, I’m living in a black hole,” said Friday who was out of power for four days in October of 2008 and eight days after the most recent storm.
Residents also called for honesty from the company.
“We need to know how much JCP&L plans to spend on improving infrastructure in this township,” said Dennis Wharton, who experienced seven outages in the last year.
Other complaints lodged by many residents included being told by JCP&L customer service representatives that since their homes were in sparsely populated neighborhoods that they were considered low priority when reestablishing power during major outages.
Prater said the goal of the company has been to first concentrate on restoring power to highly populated areas first to which several residents responded with indignation calling the practice unfair.
One Hyland Avenue resident, who has lived in the township for only five and a half months and has been without power for a total of 14 days was told by JCP&L that she was in a low priority area.
She said, “My taxes don’t reflect that I live in a low priority area and I pay the same rate as everyone else for electricity and yet I’m considered a low priority, this is just not right.”
Mayor Short said that he expects JCP&L to respond to the dozens of questions posed by residents and make the answers available on the Washington Township Web site in two weeks.
Assemblyman Bucco urged residents to get in touch with him and his father if they have specific problems that are not being addressed.
“If you can’t get an answer, we will do everything to get an answer for you,” said Bucco.
Another resident recommended that the township establish a committee to deal with the outage issue and work on an on-going basis with JCP&L to make the recommended improvements.
Another resident suggested that the township investigate the possibility of getting power from another energy company and discontinuing paying tariffs to JCP&L.
Tracy Tobin
6:29 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Last night's meeting was a good step in that it gave residents an opportunity to meet local JCP&L representatives face to face and tell them what their failure to provide reliable electrical service meant in real terms to residents. It gave our legislative district's Senator and an Assemblyman a clear picture of JCP&Ls institutionalized neglect impact on new and long term residents and businesses. Senator Bucco and Assemblyman Bucco shared their all too familiar experience with the same impact on their families. Unfortunately I do not believe that the local representatives from JCP&L have any power to make significant changes to their failed operating policies. The needed changes include replacement of aged, failing and vulnerable infrastructure, better staffing and usage of service and repair crews and an effective system of communicating with their customers during service outages and emergencies. Those changes can only come from significant and permanent changes in JCP&L corporate policy from the top executives of the Local Operating company and it's Owner/Parent company First Energy of Ohio. I hope I am wrong, but my feeling is that until the Governor and the BPU apply heavy and long term pressure for change on JCP&L and First Energy, we will see the same old "bandaid" approach until the public heat from the recent storms dies down and then it will be back to the same failed approachs that has led to a steady decline in service from JCP&L for over 20 years. STAY INVOLVED!
Domino
9:33 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Mr. Tobin: Do us a favor. Talk less, do more.
Gavin Leslie
4:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I'm sure that JCP&L do their best to restore power each time their grid fails but they mistake their mission and are resigned to the inevitable power outages. Isn't the real goal to 'ensure household power'? Yes, storms will bring power cables down but what annoys and frustrates me is the complacency of JCP&L and the lack of any innovative thinking around the problem or, seemingly, any thinking at all. The real mission is to keep household appliances running; maintaining the grid is a means to that end. Clearly not everything but an adequate number to ensure a source of heat, light and food. This implies more than simply rushing to repair the grid; a mindset that guarantees a complete loss of power to many residents. Listening to the hum of generators in our neighborhood, is an obvious solution a JCP&L program that enables a household to purchase or rent a generator from a range of models and pay for it over time as part of the monthly electricity bill? This could be a modest cost to the customer and even cost neutral to JCP&L. It would sure beat sitting in the dark, shivering and hungry which is how JCP&L leaves many customers at present. Of course, it could be argued that JCP&L should heavily subsidize such a purchase as it is only necessary due to a breakdown of their service. Local and State officials, time to demand a practical response as winter looms! Long term solutions need to be devised but short term solutions can be implemented now
LV Mom
8:30 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Thank you MaryLynn for showing up. I would like to say I was quite disappointed in the turnout. With all the problems this town faces, more than 30 people should have made it a priority to appear at this meeting. Does this show anything to JCP&L when all everyone does is complain, yet they don't even make time to voice their complaints in unison as a town? How extremely frustrating. Unfortunately, 3 minutes was just not enough time to make all my concerns heard about their poor service, bad communication, blatent lies, etc. I also forgot to tell them that my gray hair is not due to age (quite far from it), but due to the anxiety I live with every day wondering how long my power will actually be "on." I can say I was certainly thrilled to see Senator Bucco and his son attend so they could understand this is not only a storm and tree issue, but apparantly a lack of updated equipment issue as well. We, as citizens, can only do so much. I have emailed everyone I could think of, and have yet to get anything from JCP&L with regards to finding out why I continually have these outages. Since we weren't allowed to address them about things as they were speaking, and once again not enough time, I am confused about what the outcome of hooking the Chester line into the Drakestown Road line is going to accomplish. As I stated, I Iive right down the road from it, yet have all these issues while others on the same road don't.
FourScore
10:02 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I agree with you Mom about the low turnout. I arrived early because I assumed that by the time the meeting started, it would be standing room only. I was very disappointed to see how many empty chairs there are. If only a handful of our 18,000 residents care enough to show up, then JCP&L will take away that only a small percentage of the township is unhappy, and probably not much will be done. On the other hand, I would not have known about the meeting if I didn’t frequent the Path (which I only discovered a couple months ago). Perhaps the town should have done a better town letting residents know about this meeting. I bet there are a lot more who would have gone had they known about it.
Kathlyn Carter
10:18 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
And I agree with you, Hookerman. I have lived in Long Valley for 23 years and just found out about the Patch earlier this year. If it weren't for the Patch & the fact that I had been in contact with the mayor & Tracy Tobin, I would not have known about the meeting. When there are events like fireworks, football finals, house tours, spaghetti dinner at the firehouse, elections etc., there are signs up all over. Perhaps the town committee should consider doing the same for important meetings like the one with JCP&L.
Kathlyn Carter
9:50 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I don't feel any more confidant after the meeting than I did before the meeting that our issues with JCP&L will be resolved. My initial intention was to approach my comments with humor as laughter is the best medicine. I meant to tell the JCP&L reps how much I enjoyed the recorded message that I got whenever I called JCP&L during my latest 9 day outage. It went something like "Due to the effects of the recent storm, JCP&L will not be turning off power due to non-payment" (darn, I wish that I hadn't paid my bill!). And then there was the standard week long script of "everybody on by midnight Friday". Yes the reps are reading scripts. They have no choice. One of the reps at least appreciated my humor when I asked if the script had changed yet and then proceeded to read the script. The rep who read me the script on the 6th day of my outage ended the conversation with "And you have a balance due of $32". That was a definite LOL moment.
But my sense of humor died after the presentation by JCP&L. My skepticism started when the rep who gave the opening remarks referred to us as "Long Hill Township" & it went downhill from there. I didn't care about their educational backgrounds nor those pieces of equipment that they brought with them. I want to hear genuine solutions. Tree trimming in the 1st quarter of 2012 during the middle of winter? I'm not buying it!
LV Mom
12:41 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
That's too funny! They told me my balance as well (waaay more than $32! How do you manage that?) I also heard the erroneous mistake Mr. Prater made with regards to our towns name. Also with regards to the tree trimming in the 1st quarter, like you stated, yeah sure. Gives them more excuses why they can't do it. SNOW! I also like the fact that their "Engineer" just sat there and never said a single word or acknowledged anything.
Mrs.C
11:13 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Although I do agree that the small turnout was disappointing, you have to understand that not all 18,000 residents lost power during the Oct. storms or lose it on a continuing basis. Of the approximately 125 homes in my development, only 25 houses were without power for almost 8 days, and we are the unlucky ones with the chronic outage problems. I guess that section of Paula Drive is considered a 'low priority' area!
Joseph Keyes
11:19 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Four representatives of JCP&L presented a slide show of pie charts and graphics in an attempt to explain their challenges in servicing out township and what their plans were going forward:
JCP&L blamed most of the outages on trees and limbs falling onto power lines.
JCP&L displayed examples of upgraded spaces, fault detectors, and lightning protectors—all of which were in place BEFORE the outages making me question their effectiveness.
JCP&L described an “aggressive” tree trimming effort conducted every four years.
Resident’s questions and comments included:
8-10 day outages are unacceptable.
Get rid of JCP&L.
Put all wires under ground.
Why are “low priority” residents charged the same rate as “high priority” residents?
Why were service trucks bolting from one area to another, then back again instead of fixing problems in immediate adjacent areas?
Where can JCP&L’s disaster plan be found?
JCP&L plans improvements for the first qtr of 2012; residents questioned their ability to get us through the upcoming winter.
I left the meeting with that same trepidation about the upcoming winter. Between Irene and the Halloween snow, I went through 120 gals of propane over 10+ days of outages. The JCP&L team did not instill any confidence nor did they offer any real plans except to continue trimming trees and maintain existing antiquated infrastructures
LV Mom
12:43 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Joseph, I believe they were just there to appease those of us who made it a priority to show up.
Joseph Keyes
12:56 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
If that was the case, then they failed. What I hope they took away from that meeting was at least that:
1. We are real people looking for real answers—not some corporate department sitting in on a powerpoint dog-and-pony show.
2. They cannot come into a community with pat answers to questions they have not yet been asked.
3. When they appear next time, they can manage to get the name of our municipality correct.
Kathlyn Carter
2:35 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Actually, I got the impression that they were there to DISPLEASE US.
FourScore
11:54 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I don't think anyone came out of that meeting with a lot of confidence. I almost laughed out loud when the JCP&L rep was giving his presentation, and when showing a satellite image, he says; "see all these green things? Those are trees". Then he spends all this time explaining what a spacer does, which is totally irrelevant to trees falling on lines. When Assemblyman Kennedy asks if they can send informational messages to peoples' cell phones, the rep says' "how would do that? We don't have everyone's cell phone numbers". Obviously, JCP&L is clueless about how 21st century communication works.
LV Mom
12:36 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Your right on all accounts. And my response to him about the cell phones, was I have an old fashioned land line phone since the portable doesn't work when the power is out, and for all those suffering the same thing, would think they would have the same. Also as stated by someone in attendance, why can't they use the same Honeywell type system the school uses? Another crock of hooey, yet they can "computer" call you 50 times and tell you your power is back on when it's not.
LV Mom
12:15 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I also forgot to ask them what it means when you call the outage reporting number and it says, "for partial loss of power press..." What in the world does that mean? You either have power or you don't!
LV Mom
12:21 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Another issue, as stated above, has been getting the word out. Not everyone reads this blog (I got it from one of the parents I happened to call when they were scheduled for the second meeting, after attending the first one, at which time I didn't know they had cancelled), reads whatever paper it is posted in, or listens to whatever radio station they are speaking of. I personally printed a letter off my computer and drove up and down the street putting it in mailboxes. I also called a number of parents of kids my child knows and told them (didn't see any of them either), as well as those I saw in passing. It just goes to show they're not interested in a resolution. Still reeling that one of my neighbors didn't show up when they experience the same thing I do. However, I cannot just pick up and go away, then come back when the power is back on.
LV Mom
12:32 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Another issue I wasn't able to bring up, was the fact the PSE&G has less manpower with probably three times the area/residents. JCP&L's response to that is that they have to deal with more troublesome terrain and issues getting out to locations to deal with the problems. What a pathetic excuse! All they can ever do is make excuses and not take blame for the real reasons at hand. Just like every time anything has to do with flooding, that is their response to me. I don't have flooding, I'm on top of the mountain, no water here. Our whole town is not totally flooded (other than some major high risk areas near the river). I also believe, as stated above, all our wasted breath will get us nowhere with them, especially with such a small turnout. I too arrived quite early expecting it to be a mob scene. Totally ridiculous. No offense, but I believe the only ones that did show, were those who do not live in McMansions, but older homes, and seemingly those who have lived here for a very long time.
Angelo
1:07 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
@Joseph Keyes: JCP&L did offer one concrete plan, that of the "tie-in" that will provide an alternate power route to the Drakestown area in case the normal route fails for whatever reason.
Oddly, it was the mayor, Ken Short that mentioned a new sub-station in Tweksbury that may help the southern residents of the township; no mention of it by JCP7L.
I was left unimpressed by the JCP&L presentation. I just the feeling that they "don't get it".
Will be looking forward to the answers to all the questions which JCP&L said would be completed in two weeks, and the mayor said would be posted on the township website.
Joseph Keyes
1:14 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
We eeed to see the tie-in happen before this winter otherwise, more of the same. I'm looking forward toreading JCP&L's reponses....
Kathlyn Carter
2:31 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
We don't need to wait 2 weeks to see JCP&L's answers to our concerns and questions. If we who attended the meeting could get a list of the questions, I bet that we can figure out what JCP&L's answers are going to be. Heck, that might even be fun to see how close we come.
cecile marie
1:34 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
To continue complaining to JCP&L go here:
https://www.firstenergycorp.com/corporate/contact_us.html
My submission online:
Last night I joined more than 30 other unhappy residents of Washington Township, Morris County NJ to air our complaints and demand improved infrastructure, dependable service, and rapid response to outages (as opposed to the lame responses we get). I feel our voices went unheard and the four people in front of us were nothing more than stooges sent to take the arrows and bullets from us on your behalf. We are angry and we are not going to stop with that meeting. If there is a way for us to have JCP&L rights to service us turned over to another power company, we are going to do it. In the meantime, we intend to pepper you with constant complaints (like the constant outages) and offer as much negative publicity to your company as we can muster.
Sincerely,
Cecile Marie
cecile marie
1:56 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
To add your complaint about JCP&L to the NJ Board of Public Utlities online go here: http://www.state.nj.us/bpu/assistance/complaints/inquiry.html
My complaint: Power outages are too frequent and too long. What will it take to have another utlity company take over for JCP&L?
Kathlyn Carter
2:23 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Diddo!
Lisa Foster-Clarke
7:23 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Just Can't Provide Light! Nuff said?
Jon
1:54 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Not that I am happy about losing my power for several days either, but I have to play devil's advocate and ask this hypothetical question:
YOU own the power company.
You make money by selling electricity.
There are two power lines that are down.
Each broken line will each take four hours to fix.
You have one repair guy on duty, and he has an eight hour shift.
The two broken lines are essentially identical, except that one line serves 2 customers, and the other line serves 20 customers.
Which line would you tell him to fix first, and why?
When answering the question, do not change any of the parameters of the question, nor add any additional parameters that aren't already stated.
Steve Carter
9:08 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
moronic
Kathlyn Carter
3:54 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Jon, you added many parameters of your own to the scenario of 2 vs 20 customers and whose line do you fix first and yet limit responders from adding any parameters. There are MANY factors that go into running a successful buisness besides how much money you will make on a particular day. But that aside, electricity is a service that is needed by everyone (except in 3rd world countries). Therefore it is regulated and must adhere to certain standards. If it does not meet those standards, it runs the risk of being charged huge fines and/or losing its' authority to operate in the state. By the way, the reason that I am currently awake at 3:30 AM is because I heard the pouring rain outside and I live in one of those "black zones" with the frequent power outages. There are many trees around here whose roots are exposed due to soil erosion. They are ready to fall at any moment. So I am at the computer while I wait for my bathtub to fill so that I'll have water to flush toilets when the electricity goes out.
LV Mom
8:49 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
You'd better watch out Kathlyn, someone might come on here and tell you to take care of your own trees, it's not the towns responsibility if that tree is going to fall over on your property. And as you are aware, I too am in what I call the "Twilight Zone" and spend many sleepless nights as well when they use any 4 letter word on the weather "rain, wind, sno*" (a word I can no longer even use in my vocabulary), which is why my hair is gray. There are just people who do not experience what we do on a daily basis and just don't get it. We should not have to live like we are in a Third World Country. This is the United States and has nothing to do with anything but an incompetent power company.
John
8:06 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I would suggest that Mr.Lynch, JCP&L's President, take a page from Connecticut Light and Power's President play book and respectfully resign from his position. It is quite obvious Mr Lynch is not an effective leader and out of touch with the job at hand. Some one needs to take resposibility for the inefficient and antiquated system that is currently in place. Corporate directives start at the top. For once, do the right thing Mr Lynch and resign.
LV Mom
8:43 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
@Jon: In response to your "hypothetical" question, all outages are not caused by the same "identical" issue every single time. First, on JCP&L's letter from the President page during the storm, he stated they had a lot of their people spend 3 days untangling wires to get the power back to 2,000 customers. They could have got the majority of our whole town up and running in less than 1 day, a substantial amount of more people, because, I don't know if you were at the meeting, but a majority of the fixes here were done in less than 10 minutes. Is that fair reasoning? I don't think so. Especially when I am one of those people all the time.
Kathlyn Carter
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Hi LV Mom. So far I still have power today and I hope that you do also. I just wanted to clarify that none of the aforementioned trees that are ready to fall are on my property. However, they do line the streets all around me and all of them are leaning in a way that would have them fall on power lines. A number of years ago, before JCP&L was bought by First Energy, I did have a huge tree on my property that was in jeapordy of falling onto a transformer across the street. I called JCP&L and told them about it but also advised them that it was not an immediate danger. By the following day, a person from the Forestry Dept. showed up. Two days later they took the entire tree down and cut it into large logs. One of my neighbors has a log splitter. I and that neighbor and one other neighbor pooled our labor an resources and got all of the wood split in one day and distributed among us for free firewood. Oh for the good old days.
LV Mom
8:53 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
And, if I am going to ALWAYS be a "LOW PRIORITY" and be one of the last ones they deem necessary to put my power back on, then I should pay less money than those who are a HIGHER PRIORITY (and I am not talking about hosipital, fire, police, etc.), I am talking about the people living in the McMansions, because from where I sit, they are the ones who never seem to lose power, or are out for a very minimal amount of time, when my outages last for DAYS!
LV Mom
9:01 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I also didn't see any of those homeowners at the meeting. Why? Because they don't have such issues. And my response to someones statement about people working, going to school, etc., is a bunch of nonsense. I know for a fact that about 99% of the mothers in this town are stay-at-home moms. The only people who showed up at the meeting were "older" residents, in my opinion, meaning like me, they live in older homes, which is where all the problems are. I know for a FACT that I paid twice the amount for my 30+ year old home than those in several of the "upscale" subdivisions built shortly before the skyrocketing housing prices.
LV Mom
9:06 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
I can probably go live in the Bronx and pay $200 a month rent for an apartment and be treated better.
Alice Jameson
9:38 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
For the love of God, please go. Oh, and find yourself a decent colorist. You can blame age or genetics for your grey hair--not JCP&L.
LV Mom
9:50 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Sorry, Alice, but if I didn't have to pay the exhorbatant amount of taxes here, maybe I could. And it is not age that has caused it, it is the power issues! If you don't live it, you don't know. Keep your personal opinions about me to yourself. And if I could sell the home I seem to have lost my $100,000 in cash I put down, believe me, I would move.
Kathlyn Carter
9:53 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
By the way, in Mayor Shorts opening statements at the meeting, he suggested that we don't dwell on the past during the meeting, but rather on how to move forward. It sounded like a good idea to me. However, the JCP&L representatives set the tone when they kept referring to things that JCP&L had done in the past to resolve the issues in Long Valley. Especially the scene when they produced all of the electrical parts that they had brought with them (not understood by any layperson) and proudly explained the number of those equipment parts that had been installed in this area. One astute member of the audience asked if those items were installed after or before the recent disasters (I was assuming that it was after based on Mayor Shorts requested protocal for the meeting). Like a deer caught in headlights, they admitted that these items were installed before our recent slew of outages. Well hello reps, they obviously did not fix the problems. If anything, things have gotten worse. There was miniscule information provided by JCP&L about how they were planning to move forward and thus they set the tone for the rest of the meeting.
LV Mom
9:58 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Kathlyn: Yes I still have my power (amazingly), thank you, glad you do as well. As for the trees, if they are not on your property, and you have had luck getting them to do something about one in the past, I would call JCP&L if they are in danger of falling on the line. If they are on the towns property and are in danger of falling on your home, contact them. If they are notified they are dangerous and do nothing, should they fall and damage your home, car, etc., you will have recourse against them. This is a known fact from my insurance agent with regards to an incident of a tree from a neighbors yard falling on someones car.
Kathlyn Carter
11:40 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
LV MOM: The key issue to the quick response that I got for the huge tree was that it was before First Energy took over JCP&L. I am in the process of attempting to get the new First Energy JCP&L to respond to my concerns. A few weeks ago I spoke to a "Floor Support Resolutionist". It was only by chance and playing with the menu options that I got that far. After a lengthy discussion about downed trees causing my outages, she finally agreed to put in an order to the Forestry Dept. I also have another issue about a pole several houses down from mine whose top had snapped off during the 10/08 snowstorm. It was given a temporary fix & to this date has not had a permanent fix. It snapped off again along with the top of the next pole. Now there are 2 temporary fixes. The Support Specialist then put in an order to the Line Dept. A few days later a supervisor from the Forestry Dept. did call me. I told him about the numerous trees that are at imminent risk of taking down power lines on Fairview, Laketown, North Four Bridges and Drakestown. He said that he is well aware of Drakestown and that they are working on that. I haven't seen any work being done. The Forestry supervisor said that he would be inspecting this area on Monday, 11/28 and that he would call me with his findings. To date, I have not heard from the Line Dept.
LV Mom
10:26 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
@Alice: And I blame those homeowners for my house being re-assessed at what I owe the bank making it so I cannot re-finance (having no equity anymore), and I can't sell because better homes can be purchased for that amount now. Some of them paid half of what I did, had values twice what I paid, and then complained about the assessments being unfair, thus causing my "older" home to be assessed way lower than what it should have been, and their's still being assessed at way more than they paid to start with. So, if you're interested, I'll be happy to sell it to you.
Alice Jameson
11:03 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
1. How can you complain that your taxes are exorbitant—not “exhorbatant”—when you claim that your home has been “assessed way lower than what it should have been”? Last time I checked, property taxes are levied on the assessed value.
2. You blame other homeowners for your lack of fiscal prudence as though it’s their fault you bought an over-priced house.
3. Finally, do something to improve your life rather than whining all day on the internet. Buy a box of Miss Clairol and look for a job. If you look halfway decent, you might find that your chances at gainful employment improve. Once employed, save up some money and buy yourself a generator.
LV Mom
10:29 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Oh, but wait, I totally forgot, you wouldn't want to buy a house that never has power would you? That seems to be the whole reason for this blog.
LV Mom
11:36 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Alice, if you don't know how the tax assessments work then I guess I'll explain it. If your home is assessed at $500,000 and you pay $10/per thousand, that comes to $5,000 I believe. If your property has to be re-assessed to account for the housing market and becomes worth $250,000, do you honestly think they are going to cut my taxes in half as well? Not a chance. In order to keep what the government needs to payout, they now have to raise the milage rate to balance it out. So now my house is worth $250,000 @ $20/thousand keeping my taxes the same. The same is true if the value of your home is assessed higher, they can certainly not double your taxes. So if it's now valued at $1,000,000, the rate is $5/thousand (plus any additional changes needed to give them a "reasonable" increase).
LV Mom
11:39 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
And as for the rest of your nasty comments, something that seems to be occurring quite a bit on this site, keep them to yourself. You don't know anything about what I do for a living or what my finances are. The whole point of this is the fact that I PAY FOR ELECTRICITY AND I SHOULD HAVE IT. It is not MY RESPONSIBILITY to go out and purchase a generator to supply something I am paying someone else for!
LV Mom
11:44 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
And as for the job market, hey maybe you're one of the lucky ones that didn't loose their job. There are MILLIONS of people without work, and not a lot of jobs for them to get. I do the best I can with what I have, and I am not depending on the government or taxpayers (one of which I was for 40 years) to support me. Maybe we were idiots buying in what we considered a nice, safe area to raise our child (another thing you have no idea where I came from), but it's too late for that, mistake made. Had I known the housing market would crash, my power would be out all the time, and the nasty people that live in this town, I certainly would have gone someplace else.
LV Mom
11:44 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
HAPPY HOLIDAY'S!!
LV Mom
11:58 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Kathyln: I'm sorry some of us are forced to live with these things while others are just totally ignorant to how we have to live our everyday lives wondering if our lights are going to stay on, we will be able to flush our toilets or take a shower, or keep warm. I am so ready to shoot people. It shouldn't matter how much my home is worth, or what my income is. This is a free country and I have rights. Why else would everyone in the world continue to want to come here? Because they apparantly live in developments with NO TREES and underground wiring (which I do know you have--but seem to have a lot of issues with), they can continue to blast people for whining about something we are entitled to, and they have.
Kathlyn Carter
12:14 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
LV Mom: I think that you have me confused with someone else at the meeting. I don't have underground wiring. I live on upper Fairview. I was the one that said thatJCP&L needs to do an agressive tree trimming or else they need to consider their equipment as being antiquated for this area and install underground wiring throughout the town.
LV Mom
12:21 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Sorry Kathlyn, I thought I saw you mention it here, my mistake, but the point still being 99% of the issues are with people who have above ground wiring.
MaryLynn Schiavi
3:47 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Just received $424 estimated bill from JCP&L for one month for the period of: Oct 20 through Nov. 21. Hello! My normal bill is less than $100. My power was off for 2-1/2 days. What is this based upon???
Steve Carter
5:02 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Perhaps this reflects a new penalty fee assessed on "low priority black zone" residents for not using enough electricity. I can here it now, "we spent alot of money putting in the infrastructure to support these residents and now they aren't using enough power to pay for it". Their calculation would be based upon JCPL's estimate of power that you could have used if you were using power during this period.
Then again, since your power was only out 2.5 days, maybe you are being assessed a new high-priority fee!
PS, I'm kidding. It's the turkey that made me say that.
MaryLynn Schiavi
5:05 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Not sure if there is any correlation at all, but a day after my power was restored one of my lamps caught on fire. Hmmm. Sure wish we had solar power ready for prime time.
Kathlyn Carter
5:19 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Perhaps JCP&L is very angry about Patch and decided to send a large bolt of electricity to your house to show you whose in charge.
MaryLynn Schiavi
5:21 pm on Friday, November 25, 2011
Fire from the gods? The big corporations -- right? They seem to hold all the power.
LV Mom
6:04 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Wow MaryLynn, I sure hope you called in with your actual reading!
MaryLynn Schiavi
6:14 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011
Yeah, another thing to put on my mile long to-do list.
d33nb0
1:33 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011
JCP&L was acquired by First Energy Corp. of Akron, OH when it 'merged' with GPU Energy of Morristown, NJ in 2001. First Energy Corp. has since made other acquisitions; MYR Group, Allegheny Energy. Is it any surprise that such a heavily leveraged company has cut costs by dismissing staff, delaying maintenance, taking a reactive stance to potential problems rather then proactive? People, this is free market capitalism at its best. Better get used to it.
Steve Carter
9:39 am on Wednesday, November 30, 2011
d33nb9, Not sure I understand your comment. Wouldn't free market capitalism indicate that I can buy from my vendor of choice? Would that not imply that there is no government mandated monopy on the delivery of service to me, which is what the state of NJ specifically grants to JCP&L?
d33nb0
12:50 am on Saturday, December 3, 2011
I'm not talking about end consumer portion of this market which, as you know, isn't a free one. I'm addressing what goes on further upstream. In the free market system as practised in the US, for-profit corporations are by their very nature inclined, and allowed, to eliminate the competition in their respective markets. Some attempt this by producing goods and services superior to their competitors, others thru acquistions and mergers (it's quicker with a more predictable results). Corporate executives, typically the CEO, use this latter scenario to their advantage by arranging such mergers and writing massive one-time bonuses for themselves and their cronies into the merger contract. When the merger is complete, the resulting company, it's common stockholders, employees and customers are left holding the bag; a company deep in debt and little added value to show it. AT&T staggered for a while after it acquired Bell South a number of years back, AT&T's CEO received a check for $40 million as payment for arranging the deal. Bill Ford brought his family's business to its knees after gaining controlling interest in Madza, Volvo, Jaguar. Though he may never be called apon to be CEO for Ford Motor Co. again, he walked away a very wealthy man. Most mergers/acquisitions these days aren't for the benefit of the company and its investors, just the upper-level managment.
Tracy Tobin
4:50 pm on Saturday, December 3, 2011
After all is said, and unfortunately very little is done, our problems with JCP&L boil down to a very simple answer. JCP&L, like many companies today, is nothing but a "Cash Cow" for it's parent company First Energy of Ohio. That means we get milked for the revenue we provide and First Energy sends as little cash as possible back to us in order to maximize their profits. i.e. Minimal investment in new more efficient, more reliable infrastructure, band aid repairs on aging infrastructure, outsourcing maintenance and repair servcies and don't get me started on right of way tree clearing. As I said in a previous post, the solution has to come from the BPU leaning on JCP&L/First Energy to start making the necessary investments to restore our electrical system to something that approximates what we pay for. That is going to require the Governor and both houses of the State Legislature to lean heavily on the BPU. If the BPU can't do the job, it should be eliminated and it's responsibilities turned over to an existing State Agency that can get the job done.
Write the Governor and Legislators! Demand Action!
Read an interesting article in today's Star Ledger Business section. According to the State Division of Rate Counsel, JCP&L has not requested a rate increase for its services in years. Unbelievable? Possibly JCP&L has been so noble because it appears their Return on Investment EXCEEDS the State guidelines. JCP&L's spokesman doesn't believe that there is a need for a rate review.
roger freiday
7:38 am on Sunday, December 4, 2011
Has anyone seen ANY, further repairs since the storm? On Drakestown road and Laketown, we have some trees almost at a 45 degree angle, leaning OVER the road and WIRES, One tree even has a red ribbon around it. There's still colored ribbons on lines over Drakestown, Debris still narrows road ways on the shoulders. JCPL band-aids are getting tattered, but I have yet to see ANY REMEDIAL upgrading or repair. The BPU, does lean on JCPL if you send formal complaints but there's no follow-up or punitve action. ANOTHER thing, Long Valley, and particulalry the Zoning Board of ''Appeasement'' has to STOP allowing ''flag lots, ''flag off a flag'' and ''flag off a flag off an easement'' like we have on Jones lane ! WHAT do you think will happen when THAT GUY'S line goes down, on his ''sky hook'' plot ? Can JCPL even GET TO IT, and, if HE"S OUT, we are ALL OUT until they reach him.. Mr Tobin, please PASS THIS ON to the Committee, road dept. etc., as I am getting worn out with them all on this subject.
Kathlyn Carter
9:53 am on Sunday, December 4, 2011
Hey, why are people picking on JCP&L again? Tomorrow is the date that they are going to be providing us with the answers to all of our questions (the Brooklyn Bridge is still for sale). I got an interesting answer already. On or about 11/4/11 I spoke to a "Floor Support Resolutionist" who put in an order for me to the "Forestry Dept". The following week I actually received a call back. I explained the tree problem pretty much as Mr. Freiday stated, including several trees on Fairview whose roots are significantly exposed. The Forestry Supervisor said that he would check out the area on 10/25/11 and offered me a call back with the results. I accepted. Would anyone like to know the results? Check out my next "comment"
Kathlyn Carter
9:55 am on Sunday, December 4, 2011
Oops. Got my date wrong. He was going to check it out on 11/25/11.
Kathlyn Carter
10:27 am on Sunday, December 4, 2011
On 12/2/11 I received a voice message on my cell phone from the Forestry Dept. Supervisor. I am not releasing his name because I don't want to get him in trouble. He is just following orders. The response was: ..."Hello Mrs. Carter. This is _____. I spoke to you a couple of weeks ago...I told you that I would give you a call in reference to the trees around your property & on your road. Currently we had to work in a substation that got hit very very hard by the storm and we've been mandated to clear that substation up currently. Our guys will be working in the Chester area. I'm hoping to get back to it by the first of the year to work on your road & other areas within Chester. Chester substations are getting done next year. Apparently I still don't know exactly when we're doing them. I have not been notified on that date, other than the first part of the year or the end of the year yet"....He did leave me a number to call him back at if I had anymore questions. I do have a question. WHO IS GIVING THE ORDERS AT JCP&L AND WHO IS GOING TO HOLD BPU ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT PUTTING AN END TO THE ABUSE? Please, Tracy Tobin, could you get our Mayor & Town Committee members to join in with those other towns who have signed petitions to be serviced by another energy company? I still keep my bathtub full just in case, but can't do anything to prevent freezing pipes (we have a backorder in for a generator).
roger freiday
7:40 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
I suggest EVRYONE passes on their complaints by e-mail or phone to the BPU. Lame as they may seem, over the years I have often taken anxious phone calls from JCPL supervisors asking me for more info, and even occasionally offering some action. JCPL does jump when the BPU barks, too bad they don't BITE.
Kathlyn Carter
9:24 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
It is 2 weeks today since our town meeting with JCP&L. When and how will the residents be notified of JCP&L's responses to our questions?
Angelo
5:45 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Mayor Short said the answers by JCP&L would be posted on the township website. Don't know if Short received them today, or earlier. The JCP&L answers are not on the twp website.
Kathlyn Carter
9:59 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
So where are the answers to our questions. We were supposed to have them by 12/5 and today is 12/8. Did JCP&L erroneously send their response to Long Hill Twp or Chester? They don't seem to know that there is a town by the name of Long Valley in their service area.
MaryLynn Schiavi
12:33 pm on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Is anyone else paying $3.90 a gallon for home heating oil? Talk about caught between a rock and a hard place. Because I'm going broke paying for heating oil I think maybe I should lower the thermostat to 50 and use space heaters -- but then is JCP&L going to push the prices through the roof because of the cost of recent storms? The birds have the right idea. Maybe it's better to drain the pipes and get out of town during the winter. Any body have any suggestions for oil companies that charge reasonable prices?
LV Mom
12:26 pm on Thursday, December 8, 2011
Just got mine on Saturday @ $3.80/gallon! I remember it used to be less than gasoline, what in the world happened?
LV Mom
12:27 pm on Thursday, December 8, 2011
You can look on danielfamilyfuel.com, they post the daily price, today being $3.48.
Steve Carter
1:11 pm on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Hi
There are definitely some bargain oil providers out there.
However, if you want a "full-service" company that takes responsibility for your heating system, they tend to cost more. I was with Region Oil (aka Spartan, Christy Halsey, etc. for 30 years before I realized they were gouging me. At one time, their service was so good I didn't shop, but then they laid their guys off and there was no reason to pay their premium price.
I am now with Dixon Bros. They have a full service and also provide propane. Their pricing is much better than Region, and their service is outstanding.
If you don’t need a full service provider, then there are lots of discount providers. See them in the Daily Record and Observer. The only thing to beware of is that some of these are just “man with truck” operations, so they are not so good at automatic filling before you go dry, and they run out quickly if and when we have another oil shortage.
LV Mom
12:29 pm on Thursday, December 8, 2011
I have had Dixon/Eager/Northstar since buying my home, and I pay about 30 cents more per gallon because I have a service contract (that I pay $300 a year for). How is that fair?
roger freiday
3:26 pm on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
it's called the ''spot market'' often up to a whole DOLLAR less than full service. All you need do is read the gauge on your tank and order. IF you have an underground tank or no gauge, you measure with a ruler, has to be long enough to reach bottom (4 or 5 ft ) or more. The ''weights and measures'' dept can tell you what ''INCHES of oil'' in a 275 or 550 or 1000 gallon tank represents or Google it. For service there's plenty mechanics not necesarliy connected to a full service company.
Kathlyn Carter
9:23 pm on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Any bets on what time we lose power tonight?
Joanne
12:15 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
I was thinking the same thing, have my flashlight ready just in case! It's pretty windy
roger freiday
8:05 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
funny, I was sure it would go out, it did, but only for about a minute, after all, we already GOT most of the trees and limbs down for JCPL with the last couple storms.
Angelo
10:53 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
JCP&L answers delayed a week or two:
http://longvalley.patch.com/articles/mayor-another-1-2-weeks-for-jcp-l-answers
Kathlyn Carter
11:26 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
Yes, I read about that. It was JCP&L who told us at the meeting that they would have their answers back to us in 2 weeks. In the real business world their response is unacceptable. Where is Donald Trump when we need him? YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!1