Thoughts about the State of the Union Speech

Joe and Jan's thoughts about the State of the Union speech

In his speech, the president ticked off a lot of new initiatives that have to be digested.

For example, the pre-school initiative was curious to me, and I couldn’t quite determine where he was coming from on that issue  (except to, perhaps placate and expand the NEA?). I did laud his trade school-high school initiatives, however.  Germany has been doing this for decades and it has paid off.  Too many kids are striving for college who aren’t suited to an academic career, though would be successful if they began with practical life experience through a technical high school.  There are not enough of these in the U.S. and it would allow trades to flourish again and the manufacturing sector to expand. 

He closed with a very compelling case for better gun legislation.   Background checks do not stop 2nd Amendment rights and that seems like a sensible thing to enforce and strengthen. 

I was glad to hear about the down-regulating of the war machine in far off places.  I think most of the country wants the focus on our domestic agenda. Infrastructure repairs, coupled with innovative manufacturing centers, combined with an emphasis on technical training programs, would bring many jobs for now and in the future.  

What still surprises me about this president is the quantity and quality of his creativity.  His ideas seemed boundless. He still is focused. He is still hopeful.  He uplifts and encourages with his vision of a better America. I hope he can convince the ‘party of no’ to stop being so recalcitrant and put more of their energies into helping the economy grow instead of putting so much energy into wanting to see this president fail.  When his ideas fail, many of us also fail.  When these ideas move us forward, we all move forward. 

I think the country is ready to embrace a more positive attitude as was outlined by these noble, and I daresay, lofty ideas.  The budget is important, yes – but, if you don’t have a vision of what the priorities are in the budget, then, the numbers are always going to be askew.  

Much less compelling was Marc Rubio’s response. As the most interesting national GOP on the radar, his speech was disappointingly banal. It sounded as if it had been prepared weeks in advance of the State of the Union and just ticked-off a lot of GOP hyperbole—i.e., big government, more taxes, etc., without addressing any specific items in detail. (Where were these budget hawks when Bush spent over a trillion dollars on a war against a country under false pretenses?)  Furthermore, they seem to be best at complaining, but lack creative initiatives of their own.  I read the text of Rand Paul’s tea party response and it pretty much echoed what Rubio said.

On a fashion note, the first lady looked as if she’d just come from one of the inauguration parties.  Her bare arms looked cold being unadorned.  A tailored jacketed dress would seem more fitting. But who am I to judge?

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The Stig February 17, 2013 at 08:53 PM
I'd say it's re-electing Obama and not expecting him to double-down on his socialist, bankrupt America, make the rich pay for everything agenda. Here's to four more years of Trillion Dollar Deficits.
BillBalls February 17, 2013 at 09:40 PM
There is a HUGE difference there Kevin! First and foremost my town and my school system is not that deeply in debt. In fact my town is debt free, and our school system is almost debt free and that is because we the citizens don’t let those our “leaders” spend money they don’t have. Wild concept isn't it? Now Kevin – Take a huge breath and consider just what that video says. Excluding interest, that 2 year old is obligated to pay the government $68 a month until she is 62 years old, and that is just for the deficit spending we already have in place. However, unlike the video she will not be given a choice in this matter. Fact is she’ll pay that $68 a month for the rest of her life and get nothing in return for it, because that money has already been spent. You Kevin, seem to think this is no big deal, so I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is. You can, Kevin, easily and legally send the government money above and beyond what you owe in taxes, earmarked to where you want it spent. So Kevin, will you be wiring a monthly check to the government for $68 to be applied against the debt,in addition to the taxes you owe stating now for the rest of your life? Or do you still selfishly prefer to bestride my kids with a debt you refuse to admit exists? There is no magic wand that will make it go away Kevin. You know that don't you?
The Stig February 17, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Don't remember predicting that Romney would win, however, I do remember someone pretending that Corzine had a shot - http://wtpolitics.blogspot.com/2009/10/rcp-average-has-corzine-ahead.html As for the CBO, their projections are a joke. They are based on promises that Congress makes, but never keeps. And that's before Obama started asking for even more money to be spent on things like universal preschool. Ironic that a guy who gives someone else stick for using more educational services than he pays for property taxes would support a guy who wants to shower gazillions of his tax dollars on more (unionized) teachers. Go figure.
BillBalls February 17, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Kevin. I guess you missed this speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8
BillBalls February 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Actually Kevein, I take that back there is a magic wand I forgot about. It is call QE Eternal, and it is monetizing our debt and therefore devaluing our dollars faster than you can say Ben Bernanke! Did you know back in 1924, when hyperinflation struck Germany, people used to go to town with wheelbarrows full of money? I’m sure you saw pictures of that in high school history classes, right? Well here is something I bet you didn’t know, they used to lock their wheelbarrows to tress or lamp posts, while leveraging piles of money in them ungraded and out in the open. Know why? Because the wheelbarrows were in short supply and were worth more than they could hold filled with that German fiat money. Here’s something else I bet you don’t know. Some wise Germans of that time said, Slow doen, we can’t spend and print money we can’t back! And you know what they were told? Don’t worry that can’t happen here. PS in the 80ies, when gold was worth $300.00 an ounce the money to gold ratio was 100%. That is to say we had only printed enough dollars to equal the amount of gold we had. Today the ratio is 15%, and the fact of the matter is, if we want a 100% ratio again the price of gold would have to go to $14,750 an ounce. But don’t worry, hyperinflation it can’t happen here. So I guess maybe you are right Kevin. If we devalue the dollar to the point that $68 a month buys you a stick of gum at the end of the year, what does it matter?
The Stig February 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM
I'll leave it to people who want to read the whole thread to decide - http://longvalley.patch.com/blog_posts/down-to-the-wire-ohio?logout=true I never called it a Predication, just my response to your ridiculous claim about the Romneys. And it would have been fun to watch how the Obama's would have reacted to a loss.
The Stig February 17, 2013 at 10:50 PM
You mean like your "prediction" that Corzine would win? Just to be clear, in my case, if it doesn't say Prediction, then it isn't one. Keep that on file for future reference.
The Stig February 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Nedd's rant, "If someone else is paying 75% of the cost of a service you are using you should learn to be grateful and STFU!," sounds a lot like Romney's complaint about the 47%. Next time the OWS crowd gathers somewhere to demand that the rich pay for more stuff for them maybe Nedd can go tell them to STFU too.
BillBalls February 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Kevin, you said: “Sorry BBalls, but that 2 year old isn't obligated to pay off debt that came before him or her. Once they earn or inherit income, they only have to pay taxes in a progressive manner that contributes to the servicing of that debt in a given year.” Then logically based on what you wrote, if there is no debt, then she isn’t going to have to pay any debt service when she hit her years of making money, so she’ll have what is rightfully hers to keep. Also, does the fact her mother is paying that debt service today, take away from her younger years now? Do you think if her parent’s had an extra $136.00 a month to spend on her, she wouldn’t be better off? Besides, won’t that fit into the Obama way of thinking? More money in one’s pocket cures all evils. Isn’t that what Obama says? Could you supply the numbers behind the 25/75% figures you are throwing around, Something doesn't sound right there. I think you made have made a mistake in your logic Kevin.
BillBalls February 18, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Diatribe. Now there’s a word I hear come out of liberal’s mouths when challenged with actualities they can’t repudiate. They always want to dismiss the tangible practicalities by attempting to act as if they are so intellectual they can just discharge these evidences as inconsequential and not worth their refutation time. So I guess you just believe It Can’t Happen Here, right Kevin? Could you tell me why not?
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM
What person in his right mind, who is in Hawaii, would spend his time caring what's said on the Patch, in of all places NEW JERSEY?!? it's 80 degrees on Sunday afternoon, surf's up....get on with your life!
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 12:12 AM
No, doing he same thing OVER and OVER and expecting different results. That's YOU!!!!
The Stig February 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM
May be the ONLY thing you aren't b***ching about.
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM
Why, did your kids abandon you after your last court conviction?
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Good for you Kevin. I wish them much success.
Domino February 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Lotito, I think your kids would LOVE to abandon you if they had the chance. Unfortunately, for all practical purposes as their father, at least in name only, you have abandon them already. Stop ranting and give them the love and attention they deserve...if that's possible.
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 01:21 AM
Another troll...who is afraid to post his personal attacks in his own name.
Tracy Tobin February 18, 2013 at 02:20 AM
To All Why bring individual's families into these postings? There is enough meaness to go around for all. No reason to draw wives and children into the swamp.
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 02:26 AM
Enjoy your Obama and school tax increases because there's MORE TO COME! I can't wait to hear Kevin complain about hows he's getting ripped off paying for Obama-care....
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 02:56 AM
Kevin, how many times do you write and delete a post? I must have at least 25 deleted posts in my in box from today alone. View as Webpage Visit Long Valley Patch Hi Thomas Lotito, Kevin Nedd also commented on Thoughts about the State of the Union Speech. "Sometimes the truth hurts, even when it extends beyond the individual." To respond view the comment on Patch. You received this email because you commented on Thoughts about the State of the Union Speech on Long Valley Patch. To stop receiving updates for this BlogPost, click here. To manage all of your email updates, click here. To unsubscribe from all Patch emails, click here.
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 02:58 AM
Tracy, and you supported KEVIN for reelection...this what you get when you support DEMOCRATS!!!
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 03:01 AM
I can see you manically pounding your computer keyboard, posting and deleting over and over and over....
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 03:02 AM
That would make you a hypocrite, you keep complaining about all the taxes you pay...
BillBalls February 18, 2013 at 03:33 AM
Faulty Logic Kevin – You’ve made a typical mistake liberals make, because they can’t see pasted today. You state it costs $13K a year to give Tom’s son a high school education. You also say Tom contributes only $1.8K a year to that cost. Right? I've got that right, right? Now here’s where you made your logic disconnect. Tom’s son will be in high school for 4 years creating a total cost of 52K. Correct? So now we have to figure how long Tom’s dad will be paying property taxes. Right? If we assume Tom started paying property taxes at age 21, and will continue to pay them until he dies at 87 years of age, then Tom will have paid out (using your numbers and ratios) about $119K towards his son’s $52K cost of education. Right? More than TWICE what that education cost! Right Keven?
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 03:47 AM
How many iPad's did you go through today? I'm sure with all of that pounding and those extra posts you deleted, you threw at least one iPad against the wall.
Thomas Lotito February 18, 2013 at 03:54 AM
BillBalls, It took Kevin three tries and 15 minutes to reply. That's two deletes and a post.
The Stig February 18, 2013 at 04:02 AM
Enough already. You two clowns are crushing my mailbox with your never-ending LV Death Match over NOTHING. Can either of you remember what the topic was??
Michael February 18, 2013 at 05:33 AM
Kevin, the reason we republicans are frustrated is not because we don't want to pay for services we receive, we just don't want to over pay for those services we receive. For 50 years Democrats have come up with new ways to buy voters, first you have to put people into classifications, then pit those classes against each other, Rich against Poor, White against Black, Union against Private sector, Women against Men, Earth against humans, etc. etc. and in some magical way, it all requires money to be extracted from someone, especially those whom need it the most, the rich don't give a crap about government, they can just leave the country or make their own. Democrats are the worst offenders when it comes to paying their fair share, they take from others, give themselves a salary, and pass through whats left to make it look like it came from them, that is why the Democrats don't want us to become rich, we wouldn't need them. True republicans understand this, not the fake republicans like we have seen the last 20 years. The Dem. party was first to be taken over by the Socialists, and slowly those Socialists have taken control of the Republican party, I mean think about it, how hard is it for a Lib to file that he is a Republican? The Tea Party is laughed at by media and both parties, but they are true republicans who want equality, but character assassination is a very powerful tool the Dems use effectively. I see no hope for where this ends, Rome is falling all over again.
Michael February 18, 2013 at 05:49 AM
even if you are correct when it comes to the current cost of education, we all know it should not cost so much to teach our children, other countries are doing far better a job with far less money to do so, but Dems need the votes of the teachers, police, fire, postal service, and all the classes they bunch us into to keep in power, and that is where your math is all wrong, I don't want to pay for education when only a quarter of what I am spending is really going towards it, I don't want to spend thousands on police and fire protection when only a hundred actually goes towards safety, etc. etc. and I certainly don't want to pay $30,000 a year for healthcare to be told I can't get a certain test done because juan went to the emergency room for a cold, and his services were paid for by the government who took it from me to begin with, just so they can get voted back into offices.
VietNam Vet February 18, 2013 at 08:00 AM
The writer here Joe is just a dumb hack who wouldn't know a good story or a good President if he came and slapped him in the head. He has his nose so far up Odummer's butt, it'll turn brown if he stops short to tie his shoes, if he knew how. Odummer has only told a few more dozen lies again as usual.


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